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#1026 2012-05-11 15:18:23

The_Shooman
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Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

formby wrote:

Green lizard skin monks...!!!! Jesus..and wearing em with black mohair too. The horror.

This would be more appropriate...

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/ … _heart.jpg

FNB always called him the green man with no taste. Ole Filmy will roll his eyes when he sees phage-monster's latest monstrosity.


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#1027 2012-05-11 15:34:38

formby
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From: Old Sarum
Posts: 5922

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

Green lizard skin monks...!!!! Jesus..and wearing em with black mohair too. The horror.

This would be more appropriate...

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/ … _heart.jpg

FNB always called him the green man with no taste. Ole Filmy will roll his eyes when he sees phage-monster's latest monstrosity.

I'm a fan of green for certain applications but green shoes...? in Lizard skin...? and monk straps...? There's too much going on there.

The black pick and pick mohair sounds nice and I'd like to see it, but pairing it with those shoes...er no. That Blue/black suede would look better if he can't face wearing black shoes. Black shoes would be optimum though with Mohair as its a dressy cloth 'specially in black!.

I'd wear black Chelsea's personally, late sixties vibe.


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#1028 2012-05-12 11:03:27

Gilgamesh2003
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Posts: 1375

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

"Primer, if you will, on pocket squares" -
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … et-squares
Surf, if you will, a wave of dicks.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … ment-Socks

So for those of us in sports coats, slacks, free of ties but indulging in pocket squares, I'm curious.
Instead of matching a pocket square with a tone in the shirt or jacket weave, could we perhaps match them with the colorful socks?
Not a direct match, of course, but complimentary hues?

Is there an element of poor taste I don't see in this?

Yes, there is.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … -Stitching
An Andyite wants his pick stitching to be obvious but not TOO obvious. I generally have my pick stitching done with light-reflecting nautical cord, the kind used to secure prestigious racing yachts to their moorings, and I find that the effect is extremely exquisite.

 

#1029 2012-05-12 12:12:54

Film Noir Buff
Dandy Nightmare
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Posts: 7900

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Gilgamesh2003 wrote:

"Primer, if you will, on pocket squares" -
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … et-squares
Surf, if you will, a wave of dicks.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … ment-Socks

So for those of us in sports coats, slacks, free of ties but indulging in pocket squares, I'm curious.
Instead of matching a pocket square with a tone in the shirt or jacket weave, could we perhaps match them with the colorful socks?
Not a direct match, of course, but complimentary hues?

Is there an element of poor taste I don't see in this?

Yes, there is.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … -Stitching
An Andyite wants his pick stitching to be obvious but not TOO obvious. I generally have my pick stitching done with light-reflecting nautical cord, the kind used to secure prestigious racing yachts to their moorings, and I find that the effect is extremely exquisite.

Dynamic mysteries of clothing. Even men interested in the topic seem to want to poo poo its nuances and recalibrate their souls as if the superficiality of clothing will make lightweights of them. This is some proof that being a lightweight precedes talent with clothing. It's just astonishing how lost, confused and bereft of any causal links between execution and desired effect men in this space demonstrate in perpetuity. Oh well, it suggests to me that you really can't teach most men to dress better and you have to pick things out for them. It's a tone def sartorial world and I'm just living in it.

Has anyone ever analyzed the concept of taste in the modern era?

There are several different levels to taste. Each level has better and worse talent within it (maybe this is flair?)

Taste of a group, tribe or industry or a culture. Doesn't matter if it is objectively pleasing, sometimes clothes develop along other lines. Success or talent sometimes makes ugly things beautiful; Updated Denver Broncos and New England Patriots  jerseys were ugly until they won a lot of super bowls and then became beautiful. Sometimes a beautiful Italian suit is worthless if the UKers at your firm look down on it, even if they're wearing rtw stuff designed in England.

The taste you can never have. Some people just want what they think other people have. I know someone who can be dining on prime rib and if someone else is having oatmeal, he automatically assumes that person has to have something better. Or, if you have class defensiveness and think you want to assume the mantle of another group you admire or slaver after.

Consumer taste or the taste of spending on what other people make. The supposed capitalist dream where we all want to throw money at the $1500 shirt or the designer label suit because we mistake having money or a large purchase price with solving an issue.

Preferring other people's taste. I used to paint miniature soldiers but there was a miniature model painter I also paid whose style I liked better than mine; no matter what, I liked his stuff better. I think part of the problem was that I knew all the tricks and shortcuts I was covering up my painting flubs with and it cheapened my opinion of my own work. Plus, he had been to art school, developed is own type of painting techniques and mixtures. I was basically talented but lost.

The taste of effort. If you dont put the effort in, you will never grow or see those things that were hidden before. There is no end to learning in this space and anyone who declares they are know all in this space is pretty much a fool to be avoided.

Appreciative taste, someone from a similar background may never dress like another person but automatically appreciates what they're observing.

Which brings up the taste of time/place/manner. I got dragged by this friend of mine to this midtown bar which seems to be an odd crossroads of Eurotrash, young city prepsters and Bridge and Tunnel types. I really hate this place but maybe because my friend is foreign he feels at home there. A big stink was made over my striped suit that wouldnt have caused any wonder two blocks away. One woman, admiring everything I had on, asked me who dressed me and wouldn't believe me when I said I dress myself!


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#1030 2012-05-13 00:30:56

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 83

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

/\  A brilliant summation.

Online then exaggerates all of those points with its creation of virtual peer groups - A phenomenon which is interesting to observe, but one which once you've seen it, you've seen it.

The most I've ever really seen on the majority of the Internet has been 'approval of what is approved of'. And a lot of people asking what it is that they should approve of.

Real life, as always, is more interesting and messy than online. And I love it when the two collide - Nothing but laughter ensues.

 

#1031 2012-05-13 18:09:12

Popeye Doyle
Member
Posts: 992

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Your chance to help the Sartorialist become the great hero we know he is: " Be on Stage with Us at the CFDA Awards"

The little hack is being given a meaningless award. Forget that you actually won't be on stage with him, or anywhere near it--but you can make it special by making a video of yourself expounding on his greatness, his benevolence, and his deep his love for you and for fashionable people everywhere.  Now here's the great part--with his characteristic modesty he will make the people at the dreary awards ceremony watch your video describing how great he is. (Just in case, as soon as he starts talking about himself, the deluded meaningless-award givers start to have a change of heart and wonder what the fuck they were thinking of.)  They will be genuinely overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and affection you will show in your videos, and the pint-sized shutterbug won't be overburdened by having to talk about himself more than usual.   This year: meaningless fashion award in a rented hall.  Next year: Oslo?

http://www.thesartorialist.com/photos/b … da-awards/

Last edited by Popeye Doyle (2012-05-13 19:59:37)


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#1032 2012-05-13 18:24:35

GIZhou007
Ivy Original.
From: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 504

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

And not a sock in sight no doubt.  I gave up his blog when he did one in Australia and all the photographs were off 'indie kids' wearing bastardised Ivy which is a very small sub-group of Australian fashion scene. Would have taken him all of five minutes in a city mall.

 

#1033 2012-05-14 07:47:10

Big Tony
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Posts: 5478

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

GIZhou007 wrote:

And not a sock in sight no doubt.  I gave up his blog when he did one in Australia and all the photographs were off 'indie kids' wearing bastardised Ivy which is a very small sub-group of Australian fashion scene. Would have taken him all of five minutes in a city mall.

That's probably exactly what he did. Scottie was never one for hard work.


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#1034 2012-05-16 00:10:32

Gilgamesh2003
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Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Speaking of hard work:
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … ather-sole
The scion of a proud restaurant dynasty wants to know if stepping on pieces of oily beef in the kitchen will damage his exquisite leather soles or, god forbid, seep all the way through and molest his socks. "I am pretty new to lace up shoes, never found them comfortable but I thought I might give them another shot," he confesses; he has chosen to take this shot with Vass and Gaziano and Girling shoes.

First of all, he really should have asked this question on Styleforum so that he could get a response from Manton, sartorial expert and grizzled professional chef. Anyway, he obviously needs to get some cheaper shoes made, and he needs to have these new shoes sized to fit over his G&Gs. Possibly he might try galoshes or a fisherman's wading set. Stilts or spiked gardener's overshoes also might be useful. Anything to protect his soles (and socks!). A lesser man would simply wear shoes appropriate for working in a restaurant kitchen, but our OP is not a lesser man.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … happy-pics

Spending 2 hours measuring myself rather than 10 minutes paid off

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … uy-s-suits
The Great Twizz suffers apoplexy when he reads a suit guide from those wretched sartorial tyros at (cough, gag) GQ.

GQ is for men who let their women dress them. Poorly.

And to think, I'm the target demo for this magazine......

Take heart, Twizz, you're not the target demographic! The target demographic for GQ is men who enjoy visiting extremely loud clubs where they can vomit 7 and 7 into the cleavage of attractive to moderately attractive women. GQ doesn't really care about men who sit home foaming at the mouth about vest etiquette.

 

#1035 2012-05-16 01:03:12

fxh
Big Down Under.
From: Melbourne
Posts: 4117

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Gilgamesh2003 wrote:

The target demographic for GQ is men who enjoy visiting extremely loud clubs where they can vomit 7 and 7 into the cleavage of attractive to moderately attractive women.

Oh dear now you've done it.

You'll have shooey and Big Tony  asking you for the address of those clubs.


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#1036 2012-05-16 02:30:57

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 83

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

"I am pretty new to lace up shoes..."

Stop it, Gil ! 

I have go and pee now before it's too late !

wink

 

#1037 2012-05-16 03:12:52

The_Shooman
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From: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 10714

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

l've chosen to become a respectable citizen these days. No immoral thoughts, no flirting with pretty faces l don't know, and strictly no alcohol or any fun stuff. On the straight and narrow with me. Strictly `monk-man' qualities.

Last edited by The_Shooman (2012-05-16 03:30:14)


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#1038 2012-05-16 08:51:02

Big Tony
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Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

fxh wrote:

Oh dear now you've done it.

You'll have shooey and Big Tony  asking you for the address of those clubs.

The_Shooman wrote:

l've chosen to become a respectable citizen these days. No immoral thoughts, no flirting with pretty faces l don't know, and strictly no alcohol or any fun stuff. On the straight and narrow with me. Strictly `monk-man' qualities.

Is everyone is OZ nutters? Wait - don't answer that question. lol


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#1039 2012-05-16 09:09:49

The_Shooman
A pretty face
From: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 10714

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Big Tony wrote:

fxh wrote:

Oh dear now you've done it.

You'll have shooey and Big Tony  asking you for the address of those clubs.

The_Shooman wrote:

l've chosen to become a respectable citizen these days. No immoral thoughts, no flirting with pretty faces l don't know, and strictly no alcohol or any fun stuff. On the straight and narrow with me. Strictly `monk-man' qualities.

Is everyone is OZ nutters? Wait - don't answer that question. lol

Nah, just me and a couple of other blokes. We'd still love to do coke, women, heavy metal and booze...but we wanna go back to heaven and be the Buddha once more. lt's a tough road, but some of us blokes have decided to do it. lt's un-Australia, but fuck `em all...l want to walk that golden road and be omnipotent.

Last edited by The_Shooman (2012-05-16 10:59:24)


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#1040 2012-05-16 09:14:04

The_Shooman
A pretty face
From: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 10714

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Big Tony wrote:

fxh wrote:

Oh dear now you've done it.

You'll have shooey and Big Tony  asking you for the address of those clubs.

The_Shooman wrote:

l've chosen to become a respectable citizen these days. No immoral thoughts, no flirting with pretty faces l don't know, and strictly no alcohol or any fun stuff. On the straight and narrow with me. Strictly `monk-man' qualities.

Is everyone is OZ nutters? Wait - don't answer that question. lol

lt would be nice to eat stake and chips and wash it down with a nice aussie beer, but i've decided to eat weeds and algae instead and never cook a meal for the rest of my life. No fun anymore, just 100% dedication to becoming the Buddha. One day l give away my shoos, live in the bush and never talk to any man ever again...l live in silence and live on love.


Buff's Bastards......exposing message board inanity and keeping false GODS accountable since 2006!

Only gemming failure could make this poor sucker's life worse - Sammy

 

#1041 2012-05-17 12:43:32

Gilgamesh2003
Member
Posts: 1375

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … ost1299527
Brave enough to spend $899 for "hand-crafted" German glasses; not brave enough to wear "Steve Jobs" reading glasses outside.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … -cork-beds
Someone please tell me what the fuck the OP is asking in this thread. I think there is some sort of complicated backstory about Cole Haan loafers that we are supposed to know? We are also supposed to accept the fact that a lawyer (sorry, attorney) who occasionally waddles to the steak house is going to wear through the heels of his shoes almost instantly. Anyway, this is an impressive feat of forensic reason from on of Tennessee's leading jurists.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … like-this-(pics)-also-is-this-a

:Waits for comments about how it won't fly at an accounting firm in Cincinatti, that sheen on a jacket indicates a high probability that the wearer has venereal disease, the sleeves are too tight, that Earl William Wadsworth of Wooster wouldn't be caught dead in it, that stubble is unacceptable, and that a man wearing aviators indoors can't be trusted:

 

#1042 2012-05-17 13:14:38

Kingston1an
Member
Posts: 1426

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

^ I wanted to know more about $899 Lunor glasses.

On their website it states:-
''Most of our glasses are made out of materials like high-class gold, premium stainless steel and unique titanium. In addition to it the electroplating gives our glasses the perfect brilliance.''

File under 'upscale'.

 

#1043 2012-05-17 13:34:34

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

High-class is the best kind of Gold. In fact if you prefix anything with 'high-class' it means it's pretty fucking premium. High-class prostitutes are a good example of this. They are easily distinguishable from other prostitutes because they wear mid-class platinum.... which, interestingly, is directly comparable in terms of class to high-class gold.

...And those Steve Jobb's jobbies look jobby.

Last edited by Liam Mac (2012-05-17 13:35:19)


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#1044 2012-05-17 13:48:04

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DSjEUFWUMpA/SthObVCkstI/AAAAAAAAAVw/1hhPOiiSwso/s400/ferrero-rocher-11.JPG


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#1045 2012-05-17 15:41:23

GIZhou007
Ivy Original.
From: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 504

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Excuse me sir, May I have the name of your tailor please so I can ensure I never use him.

 

#1046 2012-05-17 15:42:05

Film Noir Buff
Dandy Nightmare
From: Devil's Island
Posts: 7900

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

I think he likes balls.


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#1047 2012-05-17 15:55:23

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

That's how you upscale an owl pellet.


''By hurling yourself into the abyss you discover its a feather bed.”

 

#1048 2012-05-17 17:43:19

Popeye Doyle
Member
Posts: 992

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Gilgamesh2003 wrote:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?117639-Recrafting-advice-limitations-on-number-of-times-or-what-to-do-as-far-as-cork-beds
Someone please tell me what the fuck the OP is asking in this thread. I think there is some sort of complicated backstory about Cole Haan loafers that we are supposed to know? We are also supposed to accept the fact that a lawyer (sorry, attorney) who occasionally waddles to the steak house is going to wear through the heels of his shoes almost instantly. Anyway, this is an impressive feat of forensic reason from on of Tennessee's leading jurists.

Cracker lawyer obsessing about heel layers:
"Only really notice if you hold the shoe to your face, no one would see it that way unless they were sitting by me and my leg was crossed."

If faces aren't constantly at the level of your heels, hundreds of them a day, you, Sir, are a disgrace to your profession.


"All in all they are a pretty sleazy bunch."
                                            --Cruiser
"Can one safely bone the cordovan of the dead?"
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#1049 2012-05-18 08:09:51

Gilgamesh2003
Member
Posts: 1375

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … with-shoes
Classy thoughts on a classy topic -

Instead of leather, I thought a grey wool would give an air of classy without looking too dressy but not too casual either... and also it would probably match both brown and black dress shoes, without having to buy leather bags to match my shoes.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … er-insoles
Personally, I fill all my shoes with Lexol whenever I take them off, even if it's only for a second. I thought everyone did this?

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … 4-Overcoat

After a lot of pain and research I decided I needed a more direct answer…or maybe just an answer I want to hear haha. So I bought this black ¾ overcoat by John Varvatos (paid $160 from around $500). I am looking for a versatile (casual/semi-formal) winter coat to wear going out to dinner, going to the mall, going shopping, etc. I also plan to get a pea coat (which I prefer over duffel coats) but I really love the look of the ¾ overcoat (as a side note I have a full length one I wear with suits for work).

John Varvatos Overcoat


Both Style Forum and this site have been equally discouraging in their support of the color black. However, I have always preferred the color black for coats. I guess I never would have questioned this purchase until I started reading these forums. So my ultimate question would be – am I going to look stupid wearing this jacket with jeans and a sweater/t-shirt/casual shirt? Second, are there brands anyone would recommend for a ¾ overcoat, should I decide on a charcoal or tweed color (I definitely don't want navy). I really want to keep this coat, in this color though. I guess it all depends on the support I find here haha.

Thanks guys.

Maybe grow a pair and stop asking the stupidest people on the internet for approval haha? But actually no gentleman would ever own an item as bizarre and esoteric as a black wool coat. I advise the OP to throw himself off a bridge like at the end of "The Judgment" ("The Judgement" spoilers! Sorry!)

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/foru … me-on-you!
"Shaver" from Manchester, who praises Cromps's blog for being "eminently readable," (I assume in the sense that creamed wheat is eminently edible) expresses horror at Alan Flusser's combination of track pants and a suit jacket. Congratulations! You have successfully detected the fact that Alan Flusser is crazy as shit! You join the august, selective, group of everyone who has ever seen a photograph of or met Alan Flusser.

 

#1050 2012-05-18 10:36:27

Popeye Doyle
Member
Posts: 992

Re: Inane Post of the Day 2012: The End of the Sartorial World Edition

Gilgamesh2003 wrote:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?117646-conditioning-leather-insoles
Personally, I fill all my shoes with Lexol whenever I take them off, even if it's only for a second. I thought everyone did this?

Gil--You're really killing your shoes by doing that, and I'd hate to see those those Delrays having to be sent back for their third recrafting.  Here is what works for me and some of the other guys over at avoidrecrafting.com--I keep my socks in a 5-gallon tub (easily obtained at any home supply outlet) filled with Lexol, positioned right next to my shoe racks. (that's right, racks plural with an s!) In the morning before work, I remove the socks I want to wear from the Lexol and put them on. Then I make my choice  from the rotation and-- WITHOUT TRACKING LEXOL ALL OVER THE PLACE--don the appropriate footwear.  This way the entire inside of the shoe is exposed to the Lexol pretty much for the whole day.  At my desk or in meetings I will make sure I perform some un-ostentatious foot exercises to keep the Lexol from settling.   And when I'm in an outdoor area I always look for varieties of pavement types upon which to walk.  I find the different pressure points of gravel areas as opposed to grass areas will push the Lexol deeper into the cork bed and help lubricate and nourish the adjacent leather sole and heel.  Of course the risk is greater wear to the heel and sole but with double topys (topies?  Help anyone? Nick B?)  and other aids I can avoid wear and subsequent unwanted recrafting.  Hope this helps!


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