With JS, of course, it was love and not just business.
Passion is the word, maybe?
He gives me advice on my Art History course now. A generous, expansive man.
Ignorant people, you may find, are sniffy about the History Of Art. I cannot think of anything finer to spend time on. Damn, but it's complicated. On Friday, my Dad and I have one of our lunches out. We begin, though, by visiting four secondhand bookshops, including the well-known Scarthin Books of Cromford. They have two rooms of art, design, architecture, photography, costume, specialised collectors' guides, film etc. etc. - and that's where I'll be. Weekends are difficult, it gets so crowded. My wife, for her sins, likes Rossetti and Klimt. I'll be searching for Hockney, Warhol, contemporary Italian painters, Rockwell, Grandma Moses, anything on New York.
Did i get a post deleted? Not that it bothers me, i just need to check i'm not going mad and did actually post one earlier?
Drink wrote:
I love Warhol.
Rauschenberg, expressionistic and poppy, was a better artist. I've checked this with slide rule, compass, protractor and calculator.
Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:
Did i get a post deleted? Not that it bothers me, i just need to check i'm not going mad and did actually post one earlier?
Nope.
We treasure your posts here.
Blucher wrote:
Ignorant people, you may find, are sniffy about the History Of Art.
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"What are you going to do with that then?"
... Ummmmm.... Learn a bit more about stuff?
Oh, I know. Stuff it up your arse, philistine (weren't they actually rather cultivated?) I mean, what's the point in buying a book when you can Kindle?
Great! Madness it is then! I'd recommend doing art history over art if you want any type of employment after your course. All the people i know that did art history have got great jobs in the art world. I heard one lucky chaps even going to be king! For me i like lookin at the pictures too much to read the words
Prince William did art history. I'm sure he is going to get the job anyway by bloodline alone. But i'm sure a degree in art history has helped.
Oh, I see. So: Jimmy shouldn't follow an interest because he's not Prince William; JS shouldn't have been allowed to get anywhere near it, being from the East End. As for John Gall, coming from Liverpool, how dare he?
Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:
Prince William did art history. I'm sure he is going to get the job anyway by bloodline alone. But i'm sure a degree in art history has helped.
Didn't help me much! ![]()
Aside from adding to your store of wit, charm, intelligence and erudition.
Talking about the Ivy Syllabuss. This will interest some.
http://people.mjc.edu/ivyj
Seriously, Oo's comments are to be found, more or less, in 'TSRH'. It's rather like saying only boys are good at Chemistry. It also reminds me of my old housemaster, the appalling 'Johnny' Angus, who bollocked me for wanting to study Economics instead of metalwork - "because you're only going to work in a factory, like your father". In fact, my father was a skilled engineer and draughtsman, who designed aero-engines.
Drink wrote:
Drink wrote:
I love Warhol.
Rauschenberg, expressionistic and poppy, was a better artist. I've checked this with slide rule, compass, protractor and calculator.
^ + 100
Who's trish? Sorry i mean TSRH?
I'm not sure how me defending studying art history became andy thinking i was denouncing it. God what a morning on my part. Accidental racism, upsetting andy whilst agreeing with him.
Blucher wrote:
Aside from adding to your store of wit, charm, intelligence and erudition.
That's far too kind (and flattering) but I'll take it. Thanks A. ![]()
Funnily enough my old degree course was eventually re-branded 'Art & Aesthetics' which Jim is now involved with I believe.
Staceyboy
'The Sloane Ranger Handbook'. Gentle fun was poked at girls called Caroline who 'studied' Art History (or similar), then went on to become literary agents'/nannies/publishers' PAs/whatever. I suspect a lot of these degree courses have a biggish idle rich take-up. But, having said that, American Studies was popular with spoiled little Thatcherite shitehawks at Keele - because they thought it was going to be a doddle (instead of a rich mix of History, Geography, Political Science, literary texts and a term on 'abstract thinking' and the works of Veblen, Upton Sinclair et al.) I'd be all for higher tuition fees if it kept some of those fuckers away from 'Higher Education'.
^ I won't bore you with the details of my establishment but it was pretty red brick and the moneyed (sp?) students few and far between. That said, I do remember an attractive Lady Di lookalike (this being 1984) refusing point blank to work with clay as it may damage her nails. She lasted about 2 months. Probabably married into the Royals by now. Flicking through a copy of "The Sloane Ranger Handbook" myself on Sunday. Must be something in the air.
Staceyboy
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Blucher wrote:
I'd be all for higher tuition fees if it kept some of those fuckers away from 'Higher Education'.
Except that there are few jobs for youngsters in that age group.
Higher education is a now a complete racket. Keep as many as possible off the unemployment statistics by encouraging fifty per cent of the population to take degree courses. Then charge them fees and take away any funding or grants.
Any qualifications they do get? Bad mouth them and say it was harder in my day.
My generation let this come to pass. Mea culpa.
'Class' by Jilly Cooper covered much of the ground of Sloane Rangers Handbook at and earlier date; though it was not taken up quite so much as a 'How to' manual.