There is a film soon out that has got, maybe a good looking wardrobe, I'm not up on this stuff to really say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpA6TC0T_Lw
They look slim cut - with a good rise, in a gaberdine. I'll put up some photos when I get them.
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Yeah, its a weird fit. All the older military stuff is like that, trim around the hips with enormous legs.
See Frankie in the Manchurian Canadidate with smartly groomed college-boy buzz and tie neatly tucked into high-rise strides for the epitomization of this style.
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I've ironed a stiff crease in my Rickson chinos and this makes a world of difference - quite acceptable, the wild baggy wilderness is tamed. The crease saves the day!
SMS: I watched From Here To Eternity for the first time the other day. It's a good one.
1966: interesting. That photo shows the best-fitting standard-issue khakis I've seen. I've always been worried about that Buzz Rickson-authentic-type-WWII billow.
Shamrock: interesting too. 'Officers buy their own stuff, so it tends to be "tailored" in appearance, if not slim.'
More military Ivy: wet weather WWII parkas. They turn up in Take Ivy. I got one in great condition. Here's a random example from Vintage Trends:
http://www.vintagetrends.com/common/showpic.asp?FL=lot/960&PC=960-0008.jpg
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I watched a documentary with stock footage filmed on an aircraft carrier during the Vietnam war and I'm pretty sure some of the crew on deck were wearing these sort of things you posted Paul, except they were chambray or some such in a faded (by the sun and salt spray presumably) blue colour. Really cool.
I've tried doing a search for them online but I've not got a clue where to start really.
I'll have a look through my navy-special Free & Easys if I get chance. Think they have that sort of thing.
That would be cool. I know I'm not imagining it, though it was a good few years ago that I saw the documentary.
Best Army surplace place I ever encountered was in Montparnasse - I think Horace knew it too. I'm trying to wangle a trip back their if Chrissy Boy Lloyd will pay... And you wouldn't believe how grumpy he is that everybody thinks he's me! Tra la la
American Army 'Ivy' in Paris was a big deal once, as when the Americans departed after WWII they just dumped a ton of kit there as it was cheaper than schlepping it all home.
Camus loved the ol' Khaki & Olive army shirts especially.
In fact there is a case to be made that the original fashionable Existentialist 'uniform' before the cliche of the Black Poloneck, Shades & Beret was US Army surplus mixed in with Tweeds & Cords.
And coffee breath.
As far as brick -n- mortar places, the best ive been to recently is the mohawk army navy chain in the albany area. a mixture of grimy treasures, deadstock deals, new work/sporting goods, and the best selection of socks ever-they sell the seconds from the factory that makes ballston, the better LE ones, etc.
my childhood had better army/navy stores. when i was barely of school age, there was a place down the block that had the aura of deranged anglo gentleman adventurer to it, "apthorpe" from waugh...pipes & tobacco, brass lighters, and lead zulu war soldier sets mixed with the c-rations and rotting leather goods. the owner sat smoking his briar and fondling his mustache, i think he actually built model ships too.... better yet was the creatively named "army surplus", in the hick amtrak stop of plano, illinois. an immense warehouse of all manner of stuff, racks upon racks of every item ever made, the peacoat rack itself held more coats than most stores. the proprietor was a crew cutted, beer bellied, cigar smoking georgia redneck who mumbled various racial slurs while his wife ran around like edith bunker. the walls were covered with john birch signs and rhodesian army posters. what made the scene was that they had the gayest dog imaginable, a tiny toy poodle or bichon or something that ran around pissing on the floors.
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Wearing a 1938 pattern Mackinaw 'jeep coat' today. double breasted, khaki canvas with wool collar. Also very fond of the old M51 field jacket, especially over the last few weeks with its winter liner in, but the jeep coat has the advantage of not looking too Travis Bickle or Band Of Brothers recreation society.
Don't have one (yet) but the N1 deck jacket is a thing of beauty indeed.
I saw an online review of the Buzz Rickson field-type khaki pants and they just looked awful. I don't know what was going on when they cut the patterns or who they had in mind - I read that they were supposedly copied from WWII originals. I thought that description referred to field pants, not field tents. -M-
^You have to seriously de-bag the Buzz rickson chinos with a good alterations tailor to take them in and taper them. I've the USAAF 1942 chinos and the officer pinks and once they've been altered they are acceptable with a crease in them that eliminates the remaining bagginess. But you are not going to get away with just hemming them. Absolutely not, as this is how they look, first top left:
http://www.doolittleraider.com/images/Crew%2002.jpg
The original spec chinos are another problem altogether. According to the Buzz Rickson blurb their 'original spec chinos' feature "slimmer, tapered legs" which as you can glimpse from my photos above they are definitely not, suffering from the same Doolittle raid bagginess. My local alterations tailor won't taper them on account of the double-needle stitching. Having ironed them with a stiff crease, this helps and eliminates much of the problem, but only as long as the crease stays in them.
^Is that Bobby Charlton on the left?