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#26 2012-03-01 20:54:01

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#27 2012-03-03 12:19:01

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#28 2012-03-03 13:59:20

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#29 2012-03-03 14:47:49

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#30 2012-03-03 17:27:32

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#31 2012-03-03 18:34:10

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

I always thought that the no-socks look (and its cousin the too-short Thom Browne cuff) was supposed to evoke a kind of youthful insouciance, a springy physical confidence coupled with a lack of respect for (or knowledge of) the rules. We are supposed to think that the wearer either has such  an excellent sartorial instinct or is so constantly doing interesting things that he just knew that no-socks would look great, or that he forgot to put them on.

I think it's a desperate attempt to create the visual impression that the wearer isn't boring, and somehow to mitigate the seriousness of the suit. The idea is that the wearer isn't wearing the suit "seriously" because he's far too cool to conform. Of course this expresses many different weird anxieties, the worst of which is the idea that the wearer is not sufficiently serious to wear serious clothing.

It's kind of equivalent to the excesses of formal postmodernism in fiction, in which writers who have nothing to say find the most baroque possible ways of saying it. Instead of telling a good story using simple tools they (and I'm talking about people like the severely overrated David Foster Wallace) tell idiotic stories with all kinds of frantic digressions and weird footnotes and disjointed structures.

With both sockless shoes and the bad kind of metafiction the pretense that one is doing something new struggles to conceal the fact that one doesn't really have a mastery of the old forms. So there's an effort to take a shortcut - to achieve elegance or sartorial magnetism (and hence charisma) by omitting socks instead of simply dressing well.

 

#32 2012-03-03 21:02:31

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#33 2012-03-03 21:23:15

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#34 2012-03-04 00:38:04

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#35 2012-03-04 06:20:41

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

FNB said:
"In defense of the Rubinaccis, it is a given that people in the clothing industry are going to push the bounds of what is possible."

Indeed, and in their execution of what is possible they manifest artistry, buffoonery, or ineptitude, or whatever else may be "signified" by their choices.
Aside from all the pretentious, or double meaning "elegant yet insouciant" claptrap there are the very real issues of smell and chafing.

As far as smell, the sock less man, after a few hours of insouciant elegance about town finds himself in a dilemma when indoors and in the company of human beings. Should he give in to his insouciance and kick off his shoes amongst his friends, he offends by his smell. The shoes themselves will be worse off for the wear as sweat salts will degrade the leather. The decomposing sweat oils will impart a rancid aroma after a few sock less adventures, so that even when wearing socks, if there was the most minimal amount of perspiration, the foul smell will permeate the socks and render the same predicament. Smelly feet, like dried urine in the pants or flatulence is never elegant, apt, or desirable in most company.
Of course, I may be totally off base and the look is meant to be carried off in a frigid environment where there is little risk of perspiration, but then you bring in a new set of variables like discomfort or frostbite.
As far as chafing, don't try your sock less panache with new shoes of hard leather shoes unless you just love and adore painful blisters.

The whole conceit is absurd, not in a sophisticated ironic way as surely intended, but in a "major FAIL" way, as kids nowadays say.

The danger with the whole "I'm such a master of the universe I can bend the rules and still be cool" attitude is that everybody can play it but very few succeed. Such a basic pratfall, coming from a "leader" in the industry makes me view their entire oeuvre in a different light. Their choices are not inspired or informed by thought, just a mindlessly repetitive attempt to shock.

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#36 2012-03-04 07:51:36

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#37 2012-03-04 08:29:16

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#38 2012-03-04 09:09:37

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#39 2012-03-04 09:10:51

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#40 2012-03-04 10:10:18

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#41 2012-03-04 11:38:14

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

"I'm with g- that men should mostly wear socks (except down by the seaside) and that brightly colored socks serve where brightly colored feathers used to."

Well, yes.
At the seaside, the opposite argument holds. Socks there are downright impractical, if not outright ridiculous.  Being from a caribbean island and spent more time than I care to admit in boats I am intimately aware of the issues. Socks get wet, and that has its own set of complications. Sand + wet socks has a way of shutting off all other sensory input until the conundrum is solved. The abundance of water and the specialized footwear (sandals on the boardwalk or pavement, boat shoes on the boat) readily dispose of the smelly foot issue.

As for the brightly colored socks, I wish I had the courage. And then there is the issue of clowns...


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#42 2012-03-04 12:12:22

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#43 2012-03-04 16:43:59

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#44 2012-03-05 06:08:21

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#45 2012-03-06 07:27:35

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#46 2012-03-06 15:37:58

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

I'm neutral on that. I've to say my feet give bad smell about the same whether sockless or not.

 

#47 2012-03-09 18:10:05

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#48 2012-09-01 04:43:13

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

its trying to imitate a look that hints you are relaxed enough not to worry about putting on socks .. the irony is that putting on suede (which they usually are) driving shoes without socks is actually harder and takes more time as the suede is so rough they stick to the feet as you try to squeeze them in. it also makes your feet sweat buckets as socks actually wick moisture away .. so these twits are perpetually looking for half socks etc to wear instead of just wearing proper socks smile  archetypal shoes worn in this fashion are todds (or their derivative) with the rubber 'nubs' .. which wear away on concrete after a few weeks of wear .. on one hand the igent is worried about the finer points of goodyear construction, but when it comes to this particular 'look' they dont seem to care about the shoe having the longevity of the common housefly lol

the guy who invented todds is a marketing genius (Diego Della Valle) who im sure promoted this image .. problem with driving shoes is they dont go with other more 'formal' menswear .. they really only go with jeans or chinos .. and as they are pancake flat they seem to accentuate the sock when the trouser rides up which is probably another reason their buyers are 'forced' to go sockless ..

what really makes me laugh is that i used to work in the city of london where traders/brokers between 25 - 40 used to wear todds religiously on a dress down friday & they actually used to be a status symbol .. perhaps to say i can afford to wear a shoe which costs £250 and wont last more than 2 weeks?! never quite worked it out but it looked daft regardless!

 

#49 2013-11-05 00:07:41

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

How one can wear shoes without socks that are really comfortable.

 

#50 2013-11-05 03:35:11

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Re: Is wearing shoes without socks still in vogue?

It's the Hong-Kong-Lake rook: a covert coat with velvet collar over a RTW Kirgour suit and a pair of G&G art decos with no socks.


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