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#176 2012-04-02 11:42:17

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Re: The outer limits of shirting


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#177 2012-04-02 11:56:14

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#178 2012-04-02 12:19:50

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#179 2012-04-02 14:39:05

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

I first saw a contrast color shirt in the early eighties when my younger brother, then a Wall Street math jockey, visited me in New Orleans. He was also wearing a horizontal stripe tie. I was a surgery resident wearing scrubs all day, and since most of the groundwork for "getting it" was done during the day with hospital nurses, I had no cultural reference point.
To me it was a pure color thing and fun to boot, indeed it felt like the combination of a "serious white" collar with a nice tie now had a third playful companion, the shirt color. It felt at home in New Orleans, although I did not see business people in New Orleans using it. It has remained thus in my imagination.
The movie Wall Street ruined it for me in regards to wearing them as I liked the idea, but not the acolytes.
Now that I am close to 60 I don't give a damn about who wore it and why, I just like the idea of turning the Tea for Two into a Ménage à Trois. Besides, my 26 y.o. daughter tells me contrast color shirts are for "old guys", a designation that fits me.
And yes; adding collar pins, tie tabs, or even a pocket square throws it over the top unless you excel at walking the tightrope.


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#180 2012-04-02 15:09:37

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Re: The outer limits of shirting


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#181 2012-04-02 17:54:38

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

I really like the contrast collars and cuffs.  (I will only do both and not just the collar--lack of symmetry.)  Anyway, I generally do it the old fashioned way, as a way of saving a shirt.  I have a few that began life that way and I love them, but (FNB is definitely correct) you have to make sure they don't become your "look."

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#182 2012-04-02 18:24:44

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

There are a lot around here now, more often semi casual. Or what I think the English call casual business shirts. I see them here in strange button downs with jeans and non contrasting cuffs.

I think they should always be worn with jacket and tie, suit only really, must be white collar and cuffs, looks weird without cuffs white. Should have rich material and colour on shirt. Probaly blue or pink broad stripes or white stripes on blue or pink background. Could be pattrened say in paisley or flowers although ive never seen this, only imgained it would work. Should ideally on,y show a small triangle of colour between collar, tie and lapels. The white collar is better against skin than pink.

For going out rather than for ordinary business in my mind. Business social dinner etc.

It seems firmly fixed in most peoples mind it now is stereotyped as the FU shirt for dickheads and worn without jacket, with braces, and cigar. I do think though that witha resurgence in availability for casual wear that this stereotype may disapate and enable a discreet wearing again.

 

#183 2012-04-02 19:04:06

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#184 2012-04-02 19:05:23

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You don't have a perm?

 

#185 2012-04-02 19:44:35

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#186 2012-04-02 19:46:51

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#187 2012-04-03 08:42:59

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

These not look so good.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/294771/contrast-collar-shirts-which-one-to-buy#post_5334828


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#188 2012-04-03 13:50:00

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#189 2012-04-03 14:13:41

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#190 2012-04-03 21:13:41

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#191 2012-04-03 22:37:03

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#192 2012-04-04 06:23:16

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#193 2012-04-04 06:31:38

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#194 2012-04-04 08:10:46

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

Watching another episode of One Adam 12, I noticed that several training candidates for the LA Police department were in wild printed shirts in stark contrast to the clean cut officers. I thought that was interesting because you'd think  that there would be a lot of trouble about "hippies". I like that show because it tries to portray its image of contemporary ordinary people which gives me an insight into what the wardrobers believed viewers considered ordinary, normal or current for a given type of person. Young people wear printed shirts, rich older dudes wear light grey suits; nervous department store owners/managers wear brown suits. It's very interesting.

it also makes me wonder if we don't judge clothing with a narrower lens than they did. I say this because there are themes but no discerning uniformity in what people wear. In some respects I feel through the eyes of this show that people were more diverse and individualistic than they are today and less likely to react to what someone else is wearing. Could it be that we are more uptight and conservative than an era we (at least, that I) consider backward?

 

#195 2012-04-04 11:09:47

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Re: The outer limits of shirting


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#196 2012-04-04 11:40:50

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#197 2012-04-04 11:42:34

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#198 2012-04-04 12:01:53

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Re: The outer limits of shirting


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#199 2012-04-04 12:29:51

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#200 2012-04-05 00:56:13

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Re: The outer limits of shirting

Coming back from the city today I called into my (semi) local suburban shopping centre or (as our soap dodger friends from UK might say) The High Street.  walking from the butchers ( rack of lamb plus greek lamb shaslicks - BBQ tonight = 28C = autumn) to the supermarket  I nearly bumped into an elderly couple, I estimate in their mid 80s.

Both noticeably tall but stooped over. Him in black polished shoes, beige/ tan neat pressed trousers, high rise, nicely hitting shoes, shirt = white with large blue window panes AND contrast white collar and cuffs with cuff links, plus very very bright plain red tie. Didn't look weird or out of place at all. Nothing forced.

 

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