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#1 2012-03-18 08:48:40

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Ivy Illustration

Hello chaps,

I've been sketching out some ideas, just wondering what you guys think? It's all going towards the projects that me and hopefully others can join in on at some point. Excuse their rustic charm, I lost the stylus for the tablet and had to draw them with the mouse!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429739_296315677106379_100001838485260_729117_468737633_n.jpg

Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2012-03-18 10:07:11)


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#2 2012-03-18 09:32:51

eris
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Re: Ivy Illustration

I prefer the right one. Throw some patch pockets on there.. ;-)

 

#3 2012-03-18 10:33:05

12BarBlues
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Re: Ivy Illustration

What projects be these then?


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#4 2012-03-18 10:40:28

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Shirts, trousers and ties. Ties, will be first, shirt probably a close second, then trousers to follow. I can't tackle suiting yet, although something like the slack jacket would be cheaper to get a demo produced. But the idea really is to get people's thoughts on board, because it'll only be small runs probably to people who are interested on here.


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#5 2012-03-18 10:46:26

Guido2
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Re: Ivy Illustration

If you're going for an American-influenced look then I'd have the stripes on the ties going the opposite way.

 

#6 2012-03-18 11:11:38

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Ahh yes, good point, I believe that is what the youth are calling an 'epic fail'.


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#7 2012-03-18 12:37:14

eris
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed this project will eventually see the light of day. I can't remember how many times we tried to get Sero repro project going on here...

 

#8 2012-03-18 12:39:02

The Thin Repp
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

Shirts, trousers and ties. Ties, will be first, shirt probably a close second, then trousers to follow. I can't tackle suiting yet, although something like the slack jacket would be cheaper to get a demo produced. But the idea really is to get people's thoughts on board, because it'll only be small runs probably to people who are interested on here.

Sounds very interesting as a project. Are you looking to do US/UK make?


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#9 2012-03-18 12:52:52

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Re: Ivy Illustration

Maybe start a kickstarter campaign?


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#10 2012-03-18 13:53:08

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Something a bit better...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419569_296455123759101_100001838485260_729470_25684062_n.jpg

Zach - I'm fine on the tie front as my tailor at work has been making ties the last 20 years, and cost wise it isn't a big output to start, getting a shirt copied cost me about 150 by a good shirt maker, and he will also copy trouser for 190 - 250, then the idea would be to approach probably factories here or abroad through a friend who runs his own label. Without that method of production basically there isn't any point because you would be able to get the cost down to anything reasonable. So there's the rub. Basically all I'm doing at first is getting myself a Troy, and some 519's copied with a leg shaped from a pair of 5-pockets I really like the leg on. And see where it can go from there. The ties are a sure thing though it seems.

Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2012-03-18 14:26:31)


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#11 2012-03-18 16:52:44

Simon
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Copying trousers for 190 is taking the piss mate, and so is copying a shirt for 150. Steven Latcher charges that for bespoke shirts. You can get bespoke trews for under 250 in a quality cloth from most bespoke tailors outside of London I'd have thought.


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#12 2012-03-18 17:09:00

Liam Mac
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

Hello chaps,


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429739_296315677106379_100001838485260_729117_468737633_n.jpg

I really like these purely from an artistic point of view. They remind me of the illustrations you see in the Japanese Ivy mooks. I also like that the illustration on the right appears to be wearing small speedboats instead of shoes.

Last edited by Liam Mac (2012-03-18 17:09:53)


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#13 2012-03-18 18:52:53

Oliver
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Nice but I gotta agree with Simon... I get strides cut for $250 or less depending on the detailing, and cheaper if I supply my own fabric length.

Like the green sportcoat... designs look very Margaret Graham (who btw drew some Ivy looking characters!) - perhaps a new topic of discussion, ivy in children's books haha?

Dig Robert McCloskey(!):

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#14 2012-03-19 02:30:49

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

The idea isn't that they will all be made through him, it will be a case of copying, making a demo, and then helping me produce patterns for other sizes, i know it is expensive for what i've been quoted elsewhere, but this guy has a very good reputation, many of my customers go to him for their bespoke, and all i've heard is good stuff, he is really interested in it to as he likes mid-century american himself. And i thought it is worth shelling out early on to get everything right, than go to someone quoting me a lower price, and not giving me exactly what i'm after. Then its done, i've got the patterns, then i can look to a cheaper source, if i get the interest from other people. I'm just hoping i can get those tiny speedboats made!


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#15 2012-03-19 06:15:10

steve mcqueen fan
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Liam Mac wrote:

I also like that the illustration on the right appears to be wearing small speedboats instead of shoes.

I hate to interrupt Oo Bop when he gets all serious but... good one Liam!
(He never jokes about stuff like this ...or the Color Wheel.)


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#16 2012-03-19 07:29:27

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Liam PM'd a photo of him burning a colour theory book yesterday, it saddens me to have to say i've had to issue a fatwa against him.

Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2012-03-19 07:57:11)


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#17 2012-03-19 11:09:03

steve mcqueen fan
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

Liam PM'd a photo of him burning a colour theory book yesterday, it saddens me to have to say i've had to issue a fatwa against him.

Did you used to post on Mod Culture as "Roy G. Biv"?


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#18 2012-03-19 11:17:56

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

No i was need4tweed, where you on mc, george?


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#19 2012-03-19 11:19:18

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Wait have a missed a joke there?


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#20 2012-03-19 11:22:29

Simon
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

The idea isn't that they will all be made through him, it will be a case of copying, making a demo, and then helping me produce patterns for other sizes, i know it is expensive for what i've been quoted elsewhere, but this guy has a very good reputation, many of my customers go to him for their bespoke, and all i've heard is good stuff, he is really interested in it to as he likes mid-century american himself. And i thought it is worth shelling out early on to get everything right, than go to someone quoting me a lower price, and not giving me exactly what i'm after. Then its done, i've got the patterns, then i can look to a cheaper source, if i get the interest from other people. I'm just hoping i can get those tiny speedboats made!

If your looking to put stuff into production wouldn't you be better off going to a factory with your ideas that can put them into production? They'll make you prototypes and you can alter things as you want. Sounds like you'll be making stuff in the same amounts as small labels like Soul of 65 and DNA Groove. Seems a bit piontless spending money on stuff to be copied, to be copied again. You should really have the stuff made by people you know are capable of producing the garments in the first.


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#21 2012-03-19 11:27:39

Simon
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Re: Ivy Illustration

^^
...copy.


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#22 2012-03-19 12:08:58

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

I'm not sure how much they would charge for prototyping and producing the pattern range, be interesting to get hold of that chap that started his own label on MC. Or of course asking C, what stopped me from doing that was not knowing the interest on actually having these things produced in order to cover costs, where as if I worked with this guy I'm removed from the business aspect of it, and am just paying for someone to produce me some patterns with and a demo pair, I can't imagine I'd get it done cheaper by approaching a half-decent factory. I maybe wrong though and it is worth looking at, first one that springs to mind is Pakeman. I know they make their jeans in Lancashire. Maybe I should get a quote, or at least ask about their processes. Cheers Soggs.


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#23 2012-03-19 12:12:56

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

Just to make you laugh, gasp, or maybe drop down dead. we got quoted 900 for a pair of M2M trousers today at work. I think that was from Corneliani, in one of their Z-grade cloths. Silk, wool, and cashmere pinstripe.


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#24 2012-03-19 12:41:05

Simon
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Re: Ivy Illustration

I think it went tits up for that bloke on MC. But don't let that put you off! It was a little different for C as he bought a vintage shop and all the cats that shopped there wanted his clothes! As in the style he was having made for himself, then he started having different sizes made and selling it in the shop, the rest is history, as they say. He's never had anything made to sell that he wouldn't wear himself BTW. I've another mate, S, who started Soul of 65, they only made shirts, fantastic fabrics and styling. He couldn't really be arsed to sell to shops or sort out a website, kinder just petered out in the end. You've gotta want to make it work I think. Treat it like a hobby and it'll go nowhere.


Corneliani cloths sounds lush, price sounds wank.

Wheres that PS BTW?????


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#25 2012-03-19 13:22:36

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: Ivy Illustration

In the post tomo... do you want a silk madras print bow-tie too? I can guess the answer....no.


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