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#26 2012-04-24 11:15:23

Goodyear welt
Ivyist At Large
Posts: 1451

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

I don't mind preppy stuff on younger people. Looks alright to me. I like shiney shoes as well, and English loafers and cashmere. Infact I like well made, tip top cloth garments as I rule. I'm not scared to say so. Lux garments aren't dirty things to me. I think it can still be an Ivy look. Its not all about buying things off e-bay, or tatt just cause its got the right label in the collar.

What do you mean "selling the notion of integrity back when it was still based on something" Jim?

Lots of companies making wonderful clothes with integrity, you can work them into a soft look. Or is it just about being stuck in a time warp?


Too high above the waist was the badge of the hopeless nerd/engineering student.  High waters were also not cool, the right length is the right length and you either grasp it, have the eye, or you don't. 

The Horses mouth. 2014

 

#27 2012-04-24 11:17:02

Oo Bop Sh'bam
Ivy Iconoclast
From: within.
Posts: 4067

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

I like my clothes to have rust, typically.


''If I can't share my faith in Christ here, I'd just as soon not have to put up with people advocating drug use.''

 

#28 2012-04-24 11:17:10

Goodyear welt
Ivyist At Large
Posts: 1451

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

mmm, that comes across a bit snarkish. Its not meant to.


Too high above the waist was the badge of the hopeless nerd/engineering student.  High waters were also not cool, the right length is the right length and you either grasp it, have the eye, or you don't. 

The Horses mouth. 2014

 

#29 2012-04-24 11:21:33

Oo Bop Sh'bam
Ivy Iconoclast
From: within.
Posts: 4067

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

I honestly think a young guy doesn't want to look old before his time, it's about dressing in a way that suits you, I dress matte, but try to use colour so I don't look drab. I know then people would go, oh that is preppy but to me it is just my palette.

I'm not a shiny person, but I don't think the rule extends itself past me.

The guys that looked best in Ivy IMO are covered in HWATIL, because you get an attention to style, and colour of what otherwise could be very drab and conservative clothes. THis is the thing with Ivy in my view, it was best when worn by the creatives.

Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2012-04-24 11:24:06)


''If I can't share my faith in Christ here, I'd just as soon not have to put up with people advocating drug use.''

 

#30 2012-04-24 15:59:47

woofboxer
Devil's Ivy Advocate
From: Staines-upon-Thames, Middlesex
Posts: 2158

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

A good example is Guy who works in John Simons, he's in his twenties, he wears a lot of vintage, a very traditional look and he looks great. He's really got the ivy look nailed down IMO.

 

#31 2012-04-25 02:23:49

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Goodyear welt wrote:

I don't mind preppy stuff on younger people. Looks alright to me. I like shiney shoes as well, and English loafers and cashmere. Infact I like well made, tip top cloth garments as I rule. I'm not scared to say so. Lux garments aren't dirty things to me. I think it can still be an Ivy look. Its not all about buying things off e-bay, or tatt just cause its got the right label in the collar.

What do you mean "selling the notion of integrity back when it was still based on something" Jim?

Lots of companies making wonderful clothes with integrity, you can work them into a soft look. Or is it just about being stuck in a time warp?

Sorry - I'd just exhausted my morphine script and was a bit tetchy. All better now.

No time warps and no faux intergrity, please. If you're a brand new brand be one. I can't stand the phony 'Hertitage game'. Those were the guys I was thinking of.

And certainly no blind label loyalty - I dumped Brooks & then Press as each failed to please.

I'm never going to accept tacky Preppy I don't think. I'd rather see some young blood in Ivy. Preppy will always be something new to me.

'Luxe' is a tricky one for me too... We'd shop down Russell Street & then go and laugh at the prices & the styling in RL on Bond Street on the way back to my place after a coffee & one of those open Danish sandwiches from the Danish Centre in that basement on Regent Street.  We'd have far cheaper, far superior Sero Purists in our plain Brown J. Simons carrier bags and have a right good laugh at the poncey stuff by Ralph.

But that was just us.

 

#32 2012-04-25 13:05:40

Yuca
Member
Posts: 2947

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Mr. James wrote:

Funny stuff...

Ivy, especially later via Preppy, got picked up on by so many newbies who bought into the marketing so deeply...

- If cotton is good, silk must be better ?  Richer, yes ?  More Upper Class, yes ?

... And not just that - If Oxford Cloth is kinda heavy then a REALLY heavy Oxford Cloth must be even better, yes ?

... And if the shirts are kinda baggy then REALLY baggy must be even better, yes ?

Someone made a shirt baggier than a Brooks?


'some sort of banal legitimacy'

 

#33 2012-04-25 13:12:08

Goodyear welt
Ivyist At Large
Posts: 1451

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Reminds me of my mate who used to laugh at the prices for those poncey open Danish sandwiches in that Danish Centre basement place on Regent st on his way to Gregs for 2 steak n kidney pasties and can of coke in his lunch break.

That was just him though. You know what fat bricklayers are like.

Last edited by Goodyear welt (2012-04-25 13:15:06)


Too high above the waist was the badge of the hopeless nerd/engineering student.  High waters were also not cool, the right length is the right length and you either grasp it, have the eye, or you don't. 

The Horses mouth. 2014

 

#34 2012-04-25 13:13:59

Goodyear welt
Ivyist At Large
Posts: 1451

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Yeah, but baggy was well in in the 80's kids.

Not that I did the baggy ting myself.


Too high above the waist was the badge of the hopeless nerd/engineering student.  High waters were also not cool, the right length is the right length and you either grasp it, have the eye, or you don't. 

The Horses mouth. 2014

 

#35 2012-04-25 14:28:24

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Yuca wrote:

Mr. James wrote:

Funny stuff...

Ivy, especially later via Preppy, got picked up on by so many newbies who bought into the marketing so deeply...

- If cotton is good, silk must be better ?  Richer, yes ?  More Upper Class, yes ?

... And not just that - If Oxford Cloth is kinda heavy then a REALLY heavy Oxford Cloth must be even better, yes ?

... And if the shirts are kinda baggy then REALLY baggy must be even better, yes ?

Someone made a shirt baggier than a Brooks?

First the original BD Baggies & then the original Mercer product in my experience.  Exaggerations, pastiches...

 

#36 2012-04-25 14:32:02

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Goodyear welt wrote:

Reminds me of my mate who used to laugh at the prices for those poncey open Danish sandwiches in that Danish Centre basement place on Regent st on his way to Gregs for 2 steak n kidney pasties and can of coke in his lunch break.

That was just him though. You know what fat bricklayers are like.

Cute. There was no widespread Greggs back then.

... And who drinks Coke?  Did he have a nose problem ?

Poor soul.

 

#37 2012-09-13 02:00:22

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

I'm feeling crude again as the weather changes...

I can fel the hairs on my tweed standing up !

Herringbone
Old Oxford Cloth
Ancient Madder
Matte Flannel
Loafers with a deep glow, not a shine.

... ... ... ...


J.

 

#38 2012-09-13 02:01:41

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

I like my clothes to have rust, typically.

Rust and moss are good.

J.

 

#39 2012-09-13 02:51:36

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Old Paisley John Comfort wool ties.

J.

 

#40 2012-09-13 06:04:09

4F Hepcat
THE Cat
Posts: 7134

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

I once bought a rustic fair trade and natural dyed jumper from Treepeople, the kind of thing that new age travellers wore.

Why I don't know, but it was about the time I was listening to a lot of Peter Gabriel's Realword label stuff and reading The Guardian.


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#41 2012-09-13 07:06:55

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 95

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Any cop ?

J.

 

#42 2012-09-13 09:45:41

Talk_Ivy
... ... ...
Posts: 513

Re: An Agreeable Crudity ...

Shetland, Oxford shirt, wide wale cords, Paraboot, Pea Coat...

Yes, it's that cold again!

 

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