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#1 2012-05-01 12:07:58

Leer R.
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Should I take such a bike?

Didn't ride bicycles for 20 years. Got a shitty looking cheapo mountainbike last year to step back in (in the future I may ride tours with my wife and my daughter, then I am going to get a really good bike), good enough for trying and taking a ride sometimes.

Now my neighbour told me he has an older "Waffenrad" - typical Austrian traditional threespeed- or singlespeed-bikes that were produced for at least 100 years ("Waffenräder", although in English "weapons-bikes" are civil high quality bicycles that were/are undestroyable and extremely popular in rural regions) in Graz, Styria by "Puch" and before that by "Steyr" (famous Austrian manufacturers of vehicles, either for civil and also military use). This particular bike is Italian made by Piaggio, they bought Puch in 1987. Quality went down, but those are still decent bikes. He would give it to me for free.

What do you mean? Very "Take Ivy"... but very nice indeed. Works still pretty well. I think I would use it to get to work... Pictured bike isn't the one itself but the same model.

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_900.jpg

 

#2 2012-05-01 12:25:17

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Why not?  If it's got a chain guard you can ride it in normal clothes and it keeps the maintenance down. 

From what I remember of Vienna, it's pretty flat and the centre is traffic free, good for cycling I imagine.

I bought a second hand Dutch bicycle about a year ago and now I use it more than any of my five bicycles. It's big, heavy and slow but you seem to get up a momentum and just waft along. You are sitting upright so you see more and drivers see you better, it's a totally different experience to riding a racing bike.  Because I can just jump on it on it in whatever I'm wearing I use it for a lot of short journeys. I would go so far as to say that it's allowed me to rediscover the pleasure of cycling.

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#3 2012-05-01 14:50:21

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Get it man, great bikes. I love cycling, probably more than my scoots, but I like the tinkering with the scoots.
I recently borrow my girlfriends charity shop find folding shopper, popped down to the garage and halfords when doing some scooter work, popped a box of bits on the back, raised the seat and off I went, it really is a cracking little bike, so different from riding the fixed (commute bike) or expensive mountain bike.


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#4 2012-05-01 18:18:05

fxh
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Looks great - I'd like one - its a bike for pootling around. Not having to change clothes, or even check tyres. Riding sitting up is more relaxed and "normal". Just get some old school bicycle trouser clips.  I have to sort of have a ritual of preparation to get on my"good bike" a Surly Long Haul Trucker and I have the bend down handle bars. Feels like a bike rider rather than a person riding a bike and stops me doing spontaneous jumping on bike. Well, that and bloody hills everywhere and no decent bike infrastructure. Coupled with the longer distances here.

The whole scene is different here. F'instance, being Melbourne, I can walk just up the block around the corner* and there is 7 - yes seven coffee shops that make decent coffee. And the normal cakes and $8 focaccia lunches etc. With bloody inflation some coffees are $4!!. However my nearest supermarket and shopping , library, bookshops, etc centre is 3ks away up and down big hills and busy busy roads. No milk or normal bread shops closer. We are 15Ks from CBD. 20 minutes by train. Train station 2 mins walk away. Like most people here we have 1 car for every adult in household.

*edit:: its a strange strip - old but now revived - a dry cleaner that lectures me on how he knows how to keep a good roll on jacket lapels - and he does (theres a sound recording of him on the net somewhere -^^swearing - long story) - an "organic" fruit and veggie shop that costs about 10 times normal food - I've only been in it about 7 times in 10 years, a florist run by two gay guys - which has a coffee shop - known as The Boys , a physiotherapist, dentist, a fancy bakery of soda bread, a bike repair shop, recording studio, a bank, grog shop, a school uniform shop, a neighbourhood house and centre, a boxing gym, a paint shop, a sewing/embroidery shop, a tile shop, a travel agency, and offices. And railway station.

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#5 2012-05-02 03:38:23

1966
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Careful with old bikes. Before you know it you will end up like me:

cycledefrance.com


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#6 2012-05-02 03:43:27

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

Careful with old bikes. Before you know it you will end up like me:

cycledefrance.com

yikes yikes yikes

Ok, I can see the fascination. But I think I have enough OCD with guitars and clothes... There are some extremely nice bikes shown in your blog!!!

 

#7 2012-05-02 03:51:54

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

I think I'm gonna get it. It isn't an old bike, it's "older" - at least from the early nineties or the late eighties. Those "Waffenräder" were produced until about fifteen years ago and still had same or at least similar specs like 60 years ago...

I like retro bikes but for tours or riding up the little hill where my parents have their house in Western Vienna (almost rural)  I will get a modern trekking/city bike, like a Simplon Spotlight. Not as cool as a vintage bike, but really functional and lightweight. Then I have both - "vintage" and new...

For cruising in Vienna I guess such a vintage threespeeder should be unbeatable!!!

 

#8 2012-05-02 04:01:28

1966
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

^ Yeah be careful. I'd take the Waffenrad though, why not?


woofboxer wrote:

'Nothing beats the simple pleasure of a bike ride' - John F Kennedy.

Thanks for that, very true.


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#9 2012-05-02 04:33:25

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Although I thought I wouldn't care, I think for that bike I would need another helmet. For my cheapo Mountainbike I have THIS:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_210014-bell-venture-redwhit.jpg

So it's not stylish, in fact it is quite... brrrrrrrrrrr. But very good. Goes well with an MTB or a modern trekking bike like this:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_simplon.jpg


But with the Waffenrad I'm gonna look like an idiot. And on Vienna's streets... a helmet is a must. Hm. This shouldn't look idiot like...:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_giro_reverb_h_matblk_34__77641_zoom.jpg

Only small details, but for some reason I do care about such nonsense.

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#10 2012-05-02 04:47:48

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

I find the English made Brompton ideal for my purposes: cycle to the train station in the morning, fold-up and commute to the station near work, unfold and cycle leisurely to the office: no sweat or ungainly changing of clothes.

At 5:15 its hell for leather all the way home, shirt damp with sweat and a quick shower and that's more than the daily requirement of exercise catered for. A winner.


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#11 2012-05-02 04:58:05

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

My commute is a 40 kilometer round trip. I ride with drop bars, no helmet and I don't sweat heavily.  I just wear my old Ivy garb and I don't change at the office.


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#12 2012-05-02 05:44:03

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

You'd look alot worse with your brains over the tarmac.


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#13 2012-05-02 05:46:21

fxh
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Helmets compulsary here


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#14 2012-05-02 05:54:48

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Oo Bop Sh'bam wrote:

You'd look alot worse with your brains over the tarmac.

big_smile - broken head with widely splattered brain on the street doesn't look cool... at least not too "Ivy", too wink

 

#15 2012-05-02 05:55:19

1966
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

Helmets look stupid. Whether they work otherwise is also questionable.

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#16 2012-05-02 05:56:04

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

fxh wrote:

Helmets compulsary here

Here in Austria for kids under 12 years of age. But most adults use them, too. Only a VERY few without...

 

#17 2012-05-02 06:03:42

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

Helmets look stupid. Whether they work otherwise is also questionable.

A LONG disussion with very hot arguments. They all look stupid, right. But in the end... The crush-collapsible zone of human beings is their forehead. A region very often damaged when there are accidents with bikes.

An interesting fact: car drivers tend too drive more aggressive when they see a bicycle driver with a helmet than with a driver that doesn't use one...

So: in the end it's your own choice, unless there is helmet compulsory. I guess I would use one on Vienna's streets.

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#18 2012-05-02 06:18:27

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

If you plan to ride an old military bicycle in Austria, I can't help thinking of a specific model helmet.

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#19 2012-05-02 06:25:33

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

Careful with old bikes. Before you know it you will end up like me:

cycledefrance.com

That's great site Rob, you've got some real beauties there.

You might be interested in this obituary that appeared in the Guardian a few days ago - a life well spent:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ … y-obituary

 

#20 2012-05-02 06:27:15

1966
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

^ Thanks. I know Tim, the writer.


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#21 2012-05-02 06:31:08

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Re: Should I take such a bike?

He rode his bicycle from his mid-teens until he was 92

... wearing a flatcap. Not a helmet in sight.


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#22 2012-05-02 06:31:21

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

If you plan to ride an old military bicycle in Austria, I can't help thinking of a specific model helmet.

Ah, you mean that kind of beauty? wink

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_images.jpeg

In fact, those helmets were invented by Austrian military during WWI:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_helm_oesterreich.jpg

So that would be the right choice smile

BUT - and that's the thing...:

"Waffenräder" aren't military bikes. They were produced by Austrian manufacturer "Steyr" who produced military stuff of all kinds, and therefore used the name "Waffenrad", even for their civil bicycles. They always were civil bikes of high quality. Rumors say they bought an english license - so the "Waffenräder" go back to an english design...

 

#23 2012-05-02 06:34:36

Leer R.
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From: Vienna
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

Helmets look stupid. Whether they work otherwise is also questionable.

Hey, but his is a black helmet on your bike, isn't it? wink tongue

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_5762012916_70a5c2e011_b.jpg

 

#24 2012-05-02 06:38:05

1966
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

^ Haha you got me there. The missus forced me to bring it and I succumbed. I only wore it the first 5 minutes of the 2 week trip, and during some descents.


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#25 2012-05-02 06:40:33

Leer R.
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Re: Should I take such a bike?

1966 wrote:

^ Haha you got me there. The missus forced me to bring it and I succumbed. I only wore it the first 5 minutes of the 2 week trip, and during some descents.

wink

There is also a helmet that wouldn't look stupid, anyway!!!

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/3102_diy-r2d2-crash-helmet.jpg

big_smile

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