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#1 2012-08-20 09:21:29

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Just Not Good Enough -

Comment by Christian — August 20, 2012 @ 7:02 am
@Yuca

Your remark might have some sort of banal legitimacy, but because your IP address gives away your Englishness, and your username reveals you as a member of Talk Ivy, we have no choice but to see your remarks as rhetorical and in the service of preserving the Ivy fantasy construct as preached in the Church of Simontology. I can’t imagine that your point could be so banal as to note that different groups of people might have something in common. Reading between the lines and knowing who the speaker is in this context, I must conclude that your point is to downplay WASPdom itself.

English Ivy fans just can’t stomach the origins of your fetishized Ivy clothes, so they must constantly downplay any reference to the WASP caste, Old Money, and prep schools and colleges, so they can feel good about themselves when they don a Brooks button-down. Hence absurd statements such as the Ivy League Look is “just clothes” and that during the heyday the mailman wore “Ivy.”

Actually, there is an Old Money culture in America. Or there used to be. There used to be just 400 acceptable people in New York — precisely the number of people who could fit in Mrs. Astor’s ballroom. Aldrich’s “Old Money” would be a place to start, or you could quickly watch a few film adaptations of Edith Wharton’s novels.

But while your fatuousness is one thing, the crass ignorance is quite another. You and your fellow Simontologists insult America every time you place the silly beliefs of your own style tribe above our very culture and history.

It’s one thing for you to point out that Steve McQueen wore sack jackets and lionize him for it, but it’s quite another to constantly downplay — if not outright deny — the entire culture of WASPs in America because you see it as a threat to your jazz hipster fantasy construct of Ivy

 

#2 2012-08-20 09:23:46

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

/\ How stupid is this?

400 people?

Yes. That's how mass-market fashion styles work...

Brooks and everybody else only ever sold to 400 people.



Pffffffffft  !


Weak.


J.

 

#3 2012-08-20 09:41:46

4F Hepcat
THE Cat
Posts: 14333

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Oh please, not Chensvold Uncle Tomming it again for RL and the New York elite in the hope they will throw some scraps for him to chew on.


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#4 2012-08-20 09:43:30

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

He never excluded jazz, or any film celebrities from his blog did he? And also if he starts to bring up whose right it is to wear these clothes, then he negates his own background. I'm not sure being a Norwegian is enough Chens.


''By hurling yourself into the abyss you discover its a feather bed.”

 

#5 2012-08-20 09:50:24

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

For Gods sake Jim, haven't you read Aldrich's seminal "I'm Better Than You, Don'tchaknow"? It was a one in one out system. And if you were relegated (for doing something heinous like not beating the servant girl with the proper cane) then you had to turn in your Brooks button down at the door.


"You've gotta get up close like this and - bada-BING! - you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit."

suits/jackets 36/37S. waist 29-30. shirts 14.5/15 32.

 

#6 2012-08-20 09:52:50

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

One For Bop wrote:

He never excluded jazz, or any film celebrities from his blog did he? And also if he starts to bring up whose right it is to wear these clothes, then he negates his own background. I'm not sure being a Norwegian is enough Chens.

To start with, his skull measurements are all wrong for the 400.


"You've gotta get up close like this and - bada-BING! - you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit."

suits/jackets 36/37S. waist 29-30. shirts 14.5/15 32.

 

#7 2012-08-20 09:56:17

marlowe v2.0
Member
Posts: 463

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

I'm not English and have zero angle in this argument, and that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever read.  Unlike you, Christian, I am familiar with the milieau that you so heavily fetishize yourself.  You should really stop posting photos of your "offices", as they tip your hand fully.  A more classless or tasteless individual would be difficult to find.  Walking out on lunch bills isn't very Ivy Style, pal.  What would Mrs. Astor think?

 

#8 2012-08-20 09:57:04

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

http://hilobrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Omega-Man-Chess.jpg

*shudders*


''By hurling yourself into the abyss you discover its a feather bed.”

 

#9 2012-08-20 10:10:02

marlowe v2.0
Member
Posts: 463

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

I'm still trying to comprehend what I just read.  Weak doesn't even come close to describing it.

 

#10 2012-08-20 10:10:20

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iMLSiggHbKs/TwFNDq8Pn0I/AAAAAAAAB8k/tksHiAMwK30/s1600/shootin.jpg

Chens spends another productive evening deleting comments that don't fit his agenda.

Last edited by Liam Mac (2012-08-20 10:10:37)


"You've gotta get up close like this and - bada-BING! - you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit."

suits/jackets 36/37S. waist 29-30. shirts 14.5/15 32.

 

#11 2012-08-20 10:49:45

Axelist
Talker of the talk, walker of the walk.
From: age
Posts: 1223

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

WASP can be ivy, but ivy is not only WASP. Maybe?

'Church of Simonstology' - what does that mean, then? Funny things I need to know. I am simple like that.


Just to get a repp..

 

#12 2012-08-20 10:59:59

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/wasp-on-the-ivy-will-borden.jpg

Wasp on Ivy.

just words, Just clothes.

Right, Jim?


"You've gotta get up close like this and - bada-BING! - you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit."

suits/jackets 36/37S. waist 29-30. shirts 14.5/15 32.

 

#13 2012-08-20 11:30:30

Goodyear welt
Ivyist At Large
Posts: 2702

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Come on, you can't take anything that bloke says seriously, you have seen his home decor I take it?

The tosser wants to think himself lucky he nearly got "some sort of banal legitimacy" out of Yuca, all we get is sarcasm. Did you know he's not started a thread since Oct 29th, 1968 and that was only one line.


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#14 2012-08-20 12:06:32

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

... No dog in this 'fight'... Only a Poodle on Meth that I like to borrow from time to time...

Funniest take on Chensvold's bedroom to date was that it looked 'Like a Dowager's gusset'...

  /\  My Sister is far funnier than me...  She really ought to take over for a spell...

J.

 

#15 2012-08-20 12:12:38

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Axelist wrote:

WASP can be ivy, but ivy is not only WASP. Maybe?

'Church of Simonstology' - what does that mean, then? Funny things I need to know. I am simple like that.

A very good summation.

- Very happy that Chens has resorted to outright insults to JS now, realising that all his attempts to get into that world have abjectly failed...

... He followed his usual course -

Flattery.
Bombast.
Blackmail.
Snide.

... And nobody gave a fuck about the little BloggerBoy.   Weak, Chens, weak.

J.

 

#16 2012-08-20 12:19:48

woofboxer
Devil's Ivy Advocate
From: Staines-upon-Thames, Middlesex
Posts: 6079

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Mind you' 'The Church of Simonstology' is quite funny isn't it? 

One of those cults where you have to pay in a proportion of your income on a regular basis wink


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

 

#17 2012-08-20 12:43:13

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Like Scientology but more expensive.


''By hurling yourself into the abyss you discover its a feather bed.”

 

#18 2012-08-20 12:44:01

Axelist
Talker of the talk, walker of the walk.
From: age
Posts: 1223

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

woofboxer wrote:

Mind you' 'The Church of Simonstology' is quite funny isn't it? 

One of those cults where you have to pay in a proportion of your income on a regular basis wink

At least even I get it now. wink


Just to get a repp..

 

#19 2012-08-20 12:54:18

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

No reason why my/our legal action against him shouldn't be extended to stop him mentioning JS too - He is banned from both our Facebook pages already due to his behaviour...

J.

Wot a scummy troll he is !

 

#20 2012-08-20 12:55:12

Yuca
Member
Posts: 6918

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

I'd forgotten I'd posted that; thanks for the reminder, I best head over to IS to formulate a response.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#21 2012-08-20 12:57:16

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

And remind him of all the legal shit he's now in !

J.

 

#22 2012-08-20 13:00:10

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Ivy-Peado.Com

/\  A very unfortunate way to view both him & Goodfella... So it was probably best for them not to threaten to menace my 8 year old daughter...

Their call.

J.

 

#23 2012-08-20 13:30:36

Yuca
Member
Posts: 6918

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Goodyear welt wrote:

The tosser wants to think himself lucky he nearly got "some sort of banal legitimacy" out of Yuca, all we get is sarcasm. Did you know he's not started a thread since Oct 29th, 1968 and that was only one line.

If you're not off my street in the next 10 minutes I'm getting an exclusion order on you.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#24 2012-08-21 01:28:02

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4833

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

Of course, Brooks Brothers and J. Press and especially all these little three-button shops in the 1950s and '60s were catering for an elite of not more than 400 people. The well-bred, the noble, the Brahmins...

How dare you downplay WASPdom?

The pilgrim fathers were not illegal aliens!

They were all blue bloods! They left England because it had become Sodom & Gomorrha....

Chensvold's mother was not a cheap hooker and his father was not a religious nutter, they were all part of the upper-crust!

Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2012-08-21 01:28:45)


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#25 2012-08-21 05:59:16

Oo Bop Sh'bam
Ivy Iconoclast
From: within.
Posts: 4067

Re: Just Not Good Enough -

My ancestors went over with penn, i think thank makes me more suited to wear this stuff than chens!

Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2012-08-21 06:01:11)


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