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#1 2013-07-23 03:07:30

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An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Hi Jim,

Thanks for agreeing to take part in a feature for my blog.
OK, here we go...
1. What was the first Ivy look you seen that really excited you, and why.
2. Would you say theres been a "golden age" of the Ivy look? If so when?
3. We often hear the term "trad Ivy", what are the differences between trad and modern Ivy?
4. How much, if any, do you think Ivy has taken from British and european fashion?
5. Whats your favorite item(s) in your wardrobe?
6. Out of the labels that are known for Ivy design is there any one that you'd say has been more consistant in leading the market?
7. Vintage or new?
8. Your one of the faces behind the IVY LEAGUE STYLE site, what was the main purpose of the site in the beggining? How much has it gone beyond your expectation s?
9. What is your favorite shop, both in the street and online?
10. Ivy and preppy, just what is the difference?


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Hi -

You ask some very good questions & it's a pleasure to me that you are so interested. Please ask more and if I answer anything below that you'd like more on - Just ask !


1)  You're asking me to go back 34 years in time now to 1978 when I was 13... For me that still seems like yesterday - The freshness of Ivy has never grown stale for me. First image that really packed a punch was not just an image but also a sound and it was Art Blakey quite literally drumming up a storm. It was primal, raw and yet wonderfully controlled. Masterful stuff. I heard the guy before I saw him. What on earth could a wild man like him possibly look like? And so I checked out the LP sleeve and saw... A composed, elegant black man in a dark, softly tailored suit, white shirt and slim, dark tie. So that's what all this energy looks like? Fantastic! That's for me.


2)  The golden age of the Ivy look in America runs roughly from '55 to '65 with a couple of years leeway either side. Its golden years in London & Paris ran later, absolutely informed by the advances that America had made in refining the style.


3)  'Trad Ivy' is actually a new one to me!  Can I be a prick and say that Ivy is Ivy & that the tradition is the tradition? It's either Ivy or it ain't. Things can be Ivy influenced, but the core style is a classical one with certain rules... So maybe what you call 'Trad Ivy' is just hardcore classical Ivy & Modern or Updated Ivy is what came later - Fashion trends like 'Preppy' which took Ivy as a part of their inspiration?  The word 'Trad' currently has so many problems anyway - Its current use on the internet is far from traditional when it comes to Ivy.


4)  Everything! And it mixed it all up and shook it all up and gave it an amazing new life filled with a freshness and a vitality, when you compare it to the stuffy 'Old Word' clothes that were its source material. And then the new American fashions got to influence English and European fashion in return. Fair's fair!


5)  The basics. The original Blue Brooks Brothers buttondown and the dark, slim knit tie.


6)  Brooks dropped the ball in '89. J. Press dropped the ball in '02. John Simons has stayed constant since 1955. If we are talking Ivy then we are talking something very specific. Ralph Lauren must have made the most money, but very few of his clothes are Ivy.



7)  As I run a vintage clothing line with a nice turnover for a hobbyist like me (Smoking Cat Vintage) I obviously love vintage - But it's not enough. We need new designers, brands, lines, products. John Simons is the best designer of new Ivy clothes in my experience. Van in Japan also fascinate me. Part of what I do as a grandly titled 'Menswear Consultant' (In reality I just talk about clothes a lot)  is to get involved in new projects with an Ivy connection. Some will succeed, some will sink, but if I can encourage anybody to try to produce new Ivy clothes then I'm there.


8)  In all modesty I was the only 'Face' behind "Ivy-Style.com" if you are using the term in a London sense! I'm never satisfied, I always want better. The site started  with the intention of being the best possible. By the time the first article was online that had changed to it being a blog for 'the general reader'. I walked. I'd done my bit & made it happen. I'd no interest in the 'general reader'. The specific reader is my interest. Not in an elitist way - In fact quite the opposite. I want the best for everyone, that's why I've no interest in promoting anything but that. Present people with the best like "The Ivy League Look" blog does and let them rise to it. Don't churn out drivel about Preppy fashions if you say you're doing Ivy. Then again, when you have advertisers to please...  Pah! 


9)  John Simons. Always has been. I've flirted with Brooks & J. Press & have ultimately been disappointed. JS always delivers. For online, I guess the new vintage guys out there - More of them every day. Newton Street Vintage I'd count as absolutely amongst the very best.

10)  Preppy is fashion, Ivy is style !


Best -

Jim.


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#2 2013-07-23 09:52:16

Goodyear welt
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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

And it got deleted from the blog when you were rumbled sending me emails under another name trying to blag your Smoking Cat tat a feature. "Photo shoot featuring suede heads in Ivy". Its a modernist blog you idiot.


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#3 2013-07-23 14:09:08

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What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#4 2013-07-23 14:17:03

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Let's not see this flare up again. If you want to discuss this you two can PM each other. Leave it off of the main board.


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#5 2013-07-23 14:18:46

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Oh dear we seem to be regressing, probably not a good idea to post threads dedicated to the cult of Jim on talk Ivy.
There is an assigned place for all things Jim, isn’t there? Jim and all his sparring partners can knock each others blocks off
Over there and keep this place for Jovial Ivy based chat.Should we move this thread? You decide?


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#6 2013-07-23 14:29:24

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Move it.

All I'm doing is re-posting my old stuff for others.


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#7 2013-07-23 14:34:19

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

... Actually... Might I have my own sub-forum here ?

Not NSFW, but a dedicated Jimmy space ?

I'll still add to the jollity on all forums, but a Jimmy forum could be great - I have a lot of porn to share.

??????????????

wink


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#8 2013-07-23 14:40:54

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Could be like that flare that comes out the back of fighter planes to attract missiles.

 

#9 2013-07-23 14:44:08

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What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#10 2013-07-23 14:52:33

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Seriously - My own sub-forum  ?

Think of all I've done on here...

wink


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#11 2013-07-23 15:13:26

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

... And now that this is here...

- Soggs ?

What's going on ?

/\ And that's an old soul record to boot !


Cheer up, chum.


Best -

Jim.


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#12 2013-07-23 21:51:28

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I'm very cheerful. I didn't want you blowing smoke up your own arse on TI. So I said something to a mod and it got moved up here.


Its not me dragging the past up by the way. That was you bringing back something that is done and dusted. Followed by bringing back the "I saved you from being banned" jobbie and the bust up with Leer which was fueled by you anyway.  Troll someone else you cock.

Last edited by Goodyear welt (2013-07-23 21:52:17)


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#13 2013-07-23 22:06:10

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Go fuck yourself, Goodyear. This is Jimmy's forum.

 

#14 2013-07-24 01:14:41

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What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#15 2013-07-24 03:30:43

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�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#16 2013-07-24 04:41:43

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#17 2013-07-24 04:44:11

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

... So what about my own sub-forum then ?

Provisional title:  THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF JIMMY !!!!!

Yrs,

The Thin White Jewk.

wink


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#18 2013-07-24 10:04:13

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Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#19 2013-07-24 10:50:55

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#20 2013-07-24 11:12:44

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#21 2013-07-24 11:34:24

Goodyear welt
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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Right on both counts, not nice and I was sober. Not that thats an excuse. Just a bit of tit for tat. Lets put it all behind us.


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#22 2013-07-24 11:50:25

Armchaired
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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

Nice to see you both behave like gentlemen, you both have big Cojones ,a tip of the hat to you.


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#23 2013-07-24 11:56:37

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#24 2013-07-24 12:01:15

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#25 2013-07-24 12:07:10

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Re: An Old Q&A I Did For Modcult's Dean Swift -

HAHA


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

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