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#1 2013-07-31 10:39:34
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The Ivy Moth Hole ?
What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.
#2 2013-07-31 12:07:53
- Goodyear welt
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
Ralph Lauren already make chinos with small holes in. Good cloth, good rise, nice cut but with holes in. Fill ya boots chap. I'm out I'm afraid. Far too high street. Clothes with holes in or distressed are two a penny and worn by the masses.
Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.
#3 2013-07-31 14:54:51
- stanshall
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
Can't be happy about moth holes, have been lucky not to have had any for years ... moth-eaten will always be synonymous with dilapidated, which is not the same as gently used. Not big on too much fraying either. Would rather have a decent-sized rotation and keep as much as possible intact and not trashed. Past a certain point they turn into chore clothes. Moth holes equal victory to moths, and I'm not letting them win. I sign petitions for animals every day, but the sweaters are mine.
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#4 2013-07-31 17:03:44
- Charlie Kasso
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
As a signifier you would have to tread carefully if wanting this to work.
Like with so many things the effect would all be down to the individual.
Not caring but still looking tip-top is always a winner...
and you certainly don't need people thinking you put holes in your jumper on purpose...
but if the holes are there and you don't feel uncomfortable get on with it , perhaps?
um, a metaphor for life there ?
#5 2013-07-31 17:28:28
- Jeff Reed
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
A hole in a sweater is too conspicuous. Trying too hard to be authentic devil-may-care. A few wrinkles, a dulled shoe, and rub marks from a bag strap on a jacket are entirely different. It is the difference between leaky eaves and a broken window.
#6 2013-07-31 17:36:45
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Jeff, thats sort of my point, only I think it could be done if nobody knew you were doing it
and thats Ivy, right?
#7 2013-07-31 17:45:16
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Creeping Sprezzatura it's called. The Igents LOVE that shit.
"Plup." Jimmy Frost Nachtman.
#8 2013-07-31 17:59:17
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You're right in a way Liam but I stand by my point nevertheless...
#9 2013-07-31 18:03:55
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beyond sprezzatura, if anyone thinks they got it then it didn't even exist...too romantic for just clothes?
just a thought...
CK
#11 2013-07-31 18:14:42
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Saying all that I do have a sweater with a hole in the left shoulder. I still wear it.
"Plup." Jimmy Frost Nachtman.
#12 2013-07-31 18:20:51
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ha absolutely, I'm with you there, but if you're on a mission you won't care about the 0.01% let alone the rest of them...real life isnt quite as pretty is it? Not that I've holey jumpers but I can see the thinking behind the original post.
#14 2013-07-31 18:38:22
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What if you know they know but you don't let it show that you know they know? They might think that they dont know that you know that they know. And I just caught my shetland on a nail in the yard WTF
#17 2013-07-31 18:45:10
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seriously though, its something you can play with if you care that much which some people obviously do.
I just found it interesting is all...
#19 2013-07-31 18:51:52
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I doubt they would have gone for Ivy moth holes.
#20 2013-07-31 19:10:33
- Jeff Reed
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Nor did they go for the classical scholar. Aegri somnia, I thought a Latin major and philosophy minor were the key to sexual bliss.
#21 2013-08-01 00:52:19
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I use to think that about declaring myself to be an amateur filmaker and wannabee maverick scriptwriting auteur on a mission to reinvigorate the world of film.
It didn't work for me, on all fronts!
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#22 2013-08-01 01:27:18
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What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.
#23 2013-08-01 05:38:58
- marlowe v2.0
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
We've discussed this topic more than a few times, but I never mind revisiting it. It usually seemed to be Andy, Jim, or myself espousing "that kicked back look" with the most vigour. Just a couple comments this time around: Jim, I'd agree with your observation about haircuts. Personally, I only cut my hair about 4 or 5 times a year. Chop it all off, let it go for a few months, chop it all off again. In terms of the 'moth holes', cracked shoes, etc...back in 'my day', anything that was too 'shiny' was frowned upon. If you had new Chuck Taylor's, for example, you would wear them around for a couple weeks before really 'unveiling' them. I'm not saying you have to take sandpaper to your collars, but 'frayed is the way of the walk'
#24 2013-08-01 06:16:59
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The ragged-trousered Ivyists!
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#25 2013-08-01 06:25:34
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Re: The Ivy Moth Hole ?
theres a Clarks DB ad from years gone by which has 'loving neglect' as a selling point.
It stands to reason that same loving neglect could apply from head to toe...