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#1 2007-05-10 04:04:56

The Style Council
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Sharpies

Any antipodeans out there that could add some meat to the Sharpies tale??

I always believed them to be the Australian version of Mod... I also thought that they were around in the '60's but it appears that they were around until the late '70's.... So many questions...


"In the 60s and 70s the streets of Melbourne were full of gangs but it was the Sharpies, enemies of the Hippies and Mods that held the power on the street. It was a period in Australian history where youth culture became really suburban and urban. If you weren't in it, you were out, and if you were out, you were in danger. So it was best to be in it.

For a mean bunch of kids they were extremely fashion conscious with their crest-knit black shirts and personally designed cardigans - the Conte, the Crestknit, the black shirt, the black pinstripe pants . . .

But as Saturday night fever exploded the Sharpies started to conform until the gang slowly faded away."



Found these...

http://www.abc.net.au/dimensions/dimensions_in_time/Transcripts/s508106.htm

http://www.artfacts.net/index.php/pageType/exhibitionInfo/exhibition/13773



Anyone??

 

#2 2007-05-10 05:41:32

Terry Lean
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Re: Sharpies

Love this & new to me.

It all ADDS.


"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"

 

#3 2007-05-10 05:58:30

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Re: Sharpies

We need 'The Shooman'!!!!

Looking at his post times we should have an answer in the morning, hopefully... GMT...

 

#4 2007-05-10 06:23:07

Alex Roest
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Re: Sharpies

There's a little piece on Sharpies in "Spirit of '69-A Skinhead Bible" as well as a pic of a group of them. Off the top of my head I'd say they were more of the Skinhead variety, as in Bootboys really, early 70s type that is...not particularly smart anyway.

The kids/young adults in the pic looked quite ordinary British expats to me, as in slightly fashion conscious nevertheless, but I can remember a discussion on Modculture where some more info was given, regional variations and that....there's an older bloke posting there who was an original Mod from Blighty might have some more info...

 

#5 2007-05-10 07:06:21

bandofoutsiders
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Re: Sharpies

anyone find any photos?  i'd love to see what these guys look like.  sounds like a fashion death squad

 

#6 2007-05-10 07:20:39

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Re: Sharpies

I'm on the hunt at the mo'

 

#7 2007-05-10 07:27:28

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Re: Sharpies

Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.blackburnsouthsharps.com/800x600/gallery/gallery_01.htm

 

#8 2007-05-10 07:37:34

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Re: Sharpies

Here's more......

http://www.abc.net.au/arts/visual/stories/sharpies_index.htm


Now!! Meet the band.. lol

http://www.thesharpies.com/sharpiepress.html

 

#9 2007-05-10 08:41:00

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#10 2007-05-10 09:29:02

Alex Roest
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Re: Sharpies

Yeah, good find TSC....those pics differ a lot from the one I was referring to earlier and definitely show the Sharpies had their own thing going.

Basically I've always been against the idea of gang culture, male bonding and all that so-called toughness, but the fact remains there's often some interesting sartorial element to be found within those subcultures..... funny how all that silliness and a sense of style can go hand in hand sometimes....

 

#11 2007-05-10 10:03:19

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#12 2007-05-10 13:14:09

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#13 2007-05-10 17:03:44

Nemesis
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Back with a vengeance.

 

#14 2007-05-10 19:56:22

Get Smart
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Keep the faith!

 

#15 2007-05-11 03:57:18

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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#16 2007-05-11 04:03:54

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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#17 2007-05-11 04:14:53

The_Shooman
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Re: Sharpies

Some of those sharpies look quite old. My youth was at the end of the sharpies.

 

#18 2007-05-11 04:50:50

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#19 2007-05-11 04:56:37

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#20 2007-05-11 05:27:22

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Re: Sharpies

I have just found this site that has a page that describes the history and settlement of the Melbourne area by different settlers and their gangs.. Here's an interesting paragraph that talks briefly of Jazzers turning to Mods... Could this be an 'Ivy' connection in Australisia Mr Lean?

Amidst the gangland there came about new breeds of gangs, influenced by music or popular culture. The Jazzers - to become known as the Mods or Stylists - in their duffle coats, desert boots and corduroy pants and bouffant hairstyles, were the music lovers and thinkers. The Sharpies - a 50's equivalent of redneck skinheads, though rat-tails were their trademark - wore not leather, but knitted shirts and baggy pants - called "flags" - who simply liked to beat up whichever minority they came across. The obvious response by the Chinese Triads resulted in many painful ethnic battles of pure violence that reflected sadly upon the mortal population. The Rockers - grease-haired Fairlane driving meatheads from the University dorms - had even less discretion for their choice of target. If they weren't brawling with the Sharpies, the both of them were beating up the Mods, together.


http://members.optusnet.com.au/~shadowraven/vampire_history_eastern.htm

 

#21 2007-05-11 05:30:36

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Re: Sharpies

I have just read through the rest of the page I have linked too, above.. WTF?

 

#22 2007-05-14 15:29:28

Get Smart
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good call on Jook....another band with a similar sound and from the same era is Hammersmith Gorillas...

there were quite a few bands that existed between the decline of mod-powerpop groups and before punk got its momentum going that played a heavy glam-powerpop, and had that terrace-casual look a la Sharpies

http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Got-Me-Hammersmith-Gorillas/dp/B00000IGKM/ref=sr_1_1/102-6736443-3481735?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1179177961&sr=8-1

I'm gonna bust out my copy of Jook's "Different Class" to rock on my drive home

 

#23 2007-05-15 07:12:36

Alex Roest
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Re: Sharpies

Still got that Gorillas 45 version of "You Really Got Me" myself..... Cock Sparrer would fall within that range of Smoothie/Football Hoolie type bands too, image-wise. Glam Rock stripped to the bone indeed.....

I've checked that pic in the "Skinhead Bible" BTW and although it didn't say which year it was taken I'd say very early 70s at the latest according to hair styles, braces etc. Funny thing was that, and I obviously hadn't remembered that specific detail, some of the lads were already sporting those cardies that would later set the Sharpies apart as a separate entity.....nice thread this !

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#24 2007-05-15 08:32:49

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Re: Sharpies

Hammersmith Gorillas doing 'Wild Thing', one of the best London accents ever...

wahld fing, ah fink ah luv yer.

Last edited by SubtleCool (2007-05-15 08:33:16)


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#25 2007-05-22 11:00:25

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