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#126 2014-02-09 16:06:24

Worried Man
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Re: The Neat Offensive - JS doc.

^
Fits right in. 


Typical Worried Man fantasy would be traveling back and into Joe Morello's shoes for the Time Out sessions and then riding the subsequent wave of success.  I guess having an ounce of Morello's talent would help too.... "Hey man, why do you keep dropping your sticks and messing up the takes?  This number is called Take Five because it's IN FIVE, REMEMBER??!!"  My response: "Jeez guys.  Everything's cool.  The drum part will come back around eventually."


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#127 2014-02-10 00:19:57

Bop
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Whoever wrote it got the year wrong for Kind of Blue, that was 1959. And to my ear modal jazz sounded vastly different to third stream jazz even though they came under the heading cool or modern.

 

#128 2014-02-10 01:33:33

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Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#129 2014-02-10 01:41:36

Bop
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Bill Evans looked even more bookish! And not to compare but probably far advanced of Brubeck and massively sophisticated.

 

#130 2014-02-10 07:49:30

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#131 2014-02-10 08:04:47

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Robert Elms doesn't seem very popular round these parts. I quite enjoyed his book 'The Way We Wore'. Anyone read it?


“I have never listened to anyone who criticised my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.”
Ray Bradbury

 

#132 2014-02-10 08:38:55

Armchaired
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�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#133 2014-02-10 12:42:00

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#134 2014-02-10 12:50:49

Bop
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Use it or loose it!

 

#135 2014-02-10 15:53:13

Charlie Kasso
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#136 2014-02-11 03:06:59

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“I have never listened to anyone who criticised my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.”
Ray Bradbury

 

#137 2014-02-11 07:29:50

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#138 2014-02-11 11:08:28

4F Hepcat
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And it is a riff, repeated ad infinitum....a great gig if you can get it!


Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#139 2014-02-11 15:01:59

Russell...Street
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Re: The Neat Offensive - JS doc.

That Elms line about "the look comes first" is a howler, too.

And Dylan Jones, GQ editor, hasn't done much research...

Yes, there's lots of hype in that trailer...

I suppose that's necessary for a project like this to get these media people in. They are just multiplicators. It doesn't really matter what they say. They just have to talk.

I've read Elms book, too, and it's very talkative. A bit of young fashion history from the sixties to the eighties, an autobiographical background story, a bit of chit chat and lots of pomp, yes, a few good lines here and there, but often the mix seemed to forced, maybe similar to Hewitt's plot or "thesis" in The Soul Stylists...

Hmm, in a way I can understand why one would snarl about the trailer. You always get the same people in these features. It's a bit like a very very small town and a very very small pub and it's only for the locals...

Elms, Hewitt, Weller and Rowland are always on the regular's table. Frown!

But for this film I think I can bear all of that, as I really appreciate this, and I hope it keeps the torch alive if that doesn't sound too full of pathos. I respect John Simons as a great retailer and a good businessman but I also think that's true what David Rosen says about his artistic sensibility and a point that Rosen doesn't make, probably because he takes that for granted, is that all of this is of course connected and not just coincidence for John Simons. The clothes, the furniture, all the functional design, objects of beauty, just like paintings and sculptures, books and films, photography, music. He really loves his clothes, just like his jazz and his art.

Of course, colourfields are not le dernier cri and cool jazz is not as popular as it was when Take Five was in heavy rotation, and Ivy, or being dressed well at all, is not en vogue, at least not as it was when Audrey Hepburn was a Hollywood hottie. Does that mean that John Simons is not modern, though? I don't think so. It's just his style.

I don't think it's static. It's just evolving within a certain frame. That's similar to Charlie Davidson at the Andover Shop, I guess. Zach might disagree about this. But I think that the old guys who grew up in the 1940s and 50s have kept that classic taste but never stood still. Of course, one could call that conservative, but this is neither throwback retro nor is it following the fads. It's an eye for style.


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#140 2014-02-11 15:13:58

Bop
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Oh god, not style! I'm not sure it's an eye for style. Balance perhaps? Style is how Paul Weller got that hair cut!

 

#141 2014-02-11 15:15:46

Russell...Street
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:-D

Yeah, i got lazy at the end of my rant.

An eye for beauty.


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#142 2014-02-11 15:18:18

Russell...Street
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Re: The Neat Offensive - JS doc.

And I can be as verbose as Elms. Just not about any topic.

Glad I cannot talk about Spandau Ballet, though.


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#143 2014-02-11 15:25:00

Bop
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I suppose it also shows JS means different things to different people. Lots of garments cross over from rockabilly, mod or just London Styler. I image the most interesting thing would just be to hear John's thoughts on things. But of course a film like that would probably never get made. So we have to cope with people like Elms and his rather over excited and annoying voice.

 

#144 2014-02-11 15:28:59

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I'd watch to get a British insight to all this, if nothing else.  I always feel out in the cold when you guys get going on the London / mod thing. It's intriguing.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#145 2014-02-11 15:30:40

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#146 2014-02-11 16:03:23

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"To be honest I do like FNB...I always feel one of the thunderbirds when I say it."

 

#147 2014-02-11 16:05:58

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The background music was very nice in the video.
Not quite sure what it was...anyone?

 

#148 2014-02-11 16:27:48

Oliver
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#149 2014-02-11 16:42:37

Tudor
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Yes Russell Street By Another Name to say the clothes came first is absurd, maybe 'together' at a push; John in my view was and is cool as is his shop and  his 'crowd' if it might put it that way; and I will say, since it meant a lot to me at the time, he is welcoming and lacking in pretention or cliquishness.  I am sure there will be lots of interest in a film on these lines.  Thanks for posting it.

 

#150 2014-02-11 16:53:22

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

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