The prices have been reduced.

The good links are:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/2517559...-shop-header-0

https://www.etsy.com/listing/2517555..._home_active_2

https://www.etsy.com/listing/2517550..._home_active_3

The site for each pattern calculates the cost per yard and tracks availability.

Note the price changes + free shipping effective 10:30 PM PT, 10/12.

Last edited by aucociscokid2 (2015-10-12 23:23:42)

A simple explanation of how a pre-order group buy would work. Comments? Interest?

There are four patterns available. 
We can can get shirts in a single pattern ready once we have a 20 orders for that pattern
The pre-order period will be 2 weeks.
If, that the end of the pre-order period, the minimum of 20 shirts has not been met, you will be refunded promptly, otherwise, the order will go to the factory for production.  The shirts will be expected to be delivered at the end of December.

/\ exactly!

After doing a bit of digging,

The New England Shirt Co. 'bleeding madras' shirts were made for...
http://www.davidwood.com/
....and have nothing to do with the Etsy links given above, 'David Wood of Portland' did not get their fabric from this supplier.

Etsy are currently investigating the seller,
as attempts to take second payment/unauthorised repeat purchases on purchasers accounts have already been reported.
This is why the Etsy links to the shop are all now dead.

Last edited by Acton_Baby (2015-10-14 04:29:50)

Very odd, yet the link to the newspaper article and the info over on Ivy Style would seem to make it appear kosher?

Let's see what happens - but agree, seems to be very little info on anything other than single needle tailoring!

The fabric may have the same source in India but the Etsy seller has not supplied David Wood with any fabric.

It looks very much like that the Etsy seller is trying to sell a product on someone else's provenance,
hoping the buyer makes positive links to an existing product to gain favour for their own unproven product.

It's all a bit snide in my opinion.

Oh ye skeptics, explain how we have a flickr photo of said fabric, dated January 2015, on a flickr account that has the name of user aucociscokid, with photos of Aleck bearing his name.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23834346@N03/16217986920/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23834346@N03/2789745413/in/photostream/
The fabric did not exist until this one man made it happen.  It's quite a stretch to think that the Indians took this (recently revived) slow and laborious process and created identical surplus for some bored housewife selling on Etsy.  Why steal his identity?  His brash zealousness is arguably the least desirable part of the whole venture for many consumers.
It seems much more likely that the initial investor had to commit to a certain quantity, and was left with excess by his initially timid customers and contractors.

Last edited by chatsworth osborne jr. (2015-10-14 05:30:32)

Thank you, Chatsworth!!! The situation is essentially correct as you describe it. My search  for authentic "bleeding" madras, which started here 

http://www.indiamike.com/india/chennai-madras-f24/retail-sources-for-bleeding-madras-fabric-by-the-meter-t217153/

in April, 2014, has been amply documented step-by-step along the way on sites such as Ask Andy and Styleforum.

"Bleeding" madras has not been produced in 45+ years. I posted an email from the HHEC to that effect here.

IT IS AVAILABLE NOWHERE ELSE. FROM NO ONE ELSE.

(Someone on SF posted that he's been looking for it for 40 years. This is our experience, too. Major fabric wholesalers and other retailers have been looking all over India for as long to no avail.)

I - and a colleague now - am involved in every step of the process. We design the patterns, we - after being mentored by a master/dyer weaver who remembered it from the 1960s - did all the dyeing/weaving ourselves, we sell it.

Now that things are taking off, we - and the master/dyer weaver - have mentored other weavers in his village who were weaving silk how to weave it.

David Wood Clothiers bought yardage from us to have New England Shirt Co. make into shirts to sell in their store.

Call up David Hodgkins/David Wood Clothiers and/or Bob Kidder/New England Shirt to confirm any/all of this.

(David Hodgkins, Bob Kidder, and Jeff Rose at Upmarket Stitchers, who may be doing sports jackets all agree that I'm a pain in the neck, which to me is just persistence.)

The piece goods on Etsy are an order from a Brooklyn retailer who didn't pay.

We are going to be doing something with Styleforum, whereby Styleforum members can pre-order shirts. The shirts will be made for us under our label on a CMT basis, if you know what that is.

Last edited by aucociscokid2 (2015-10-14 14:39:59)

Who are you "Bop" and how do you know cards are being double-charged? If you don't have personal knowledge, why did you post it?? Even if they were, it doesn't go to my integrity. Does it?

Your "issue" as I will politely call it, is something - I suggest - which - more appropriately - could have been raised - and resolved, if required,  via PM.

I'm completely transparent. Ask me a question. I respond. My integrity is beyond question. You want references? Look at my Linkedin.

Last edited by aucociscokid2 (2015-10-14 14:54:15)

And I've no need to PM to you about anything thanks. We can talk about it here.