We're a surly bunch for the most part aucocisco.  Perhaps you reserve entering Talk Ivy until after you've downed a 5th of bourbon and started blasting some Louie Louie.  I mean... that's what I do.

That's right mister ,so don't come peddling your fancy liquor round here

We can be a tough crowd.  Just post a picture of yourself on the toilet with a paper bag over your head for the ILSFT thread and then you'll get by with anything.  At least that worked for Thee Capatin.... 

What ever happened to you reaching out to David Mercer?

And sure, provide a link to the non-GMO/HMO/CFO Group Made To Order info over here as you make progress.  We share a few members and I'm sure some from SF lurk over here and vice versa.

Last edited by Worried Man (2015-10-15 18:35:14)

That's enough for about 20 shirts. I will be keeping an eye on his site.

Do you think this cloth will last as long as other shirt cloths e.g. broadcloth or Oxford? (I read somewhere that madras can have a shorter lifespan.)

Look, you're doing yourself no favours here by constantly harking on about your perception of how other iterations of madras may or may not be 'authentic'.
I'll set you straight on the RL situation. One of my ex-students currently works for RL in NYC. I contacted her a few weeks ago about their source for madras. At any one time, depending on the seasons quota of madras (which, for 2015 was very limited) they reach out, through their Asian supply agents, to up to 10-15 different suppliers. In 2013 for instance, they used madras from around six different manufacturers. All of these were distinct in weight, pattern, dying processes etc. This can be simply verified by checking the garment for the supplier codes and by a simple hand evaluation. Some fade more than others.

Concentrate on YOUR product by:
a) Having the nouse to procure some professional photographs of the product.
b) Setting up a transparent marketing campaign. None of this weird third-person and alias' business.
c) Wait until feedback starts coming in about garments made from your cloth. Shrinkage and excessive/uneven bleeding can be an issue. Hopefully you had trial garments made and subjected to some hard washing and ironing to assess how the fabric would react.

Good luck on this enterprise, but play it cool like Lester Y. : )

That's all great, and like everyone on here we are interested - but you need to market it better. As we keep saying take photos and let us see the product - up to now it's invisible?

I haven't really been following this thread either Yuca but I'm glad I looked in to see the fantastic video of War performing "Cisco Kid" on The Midnight Special, thanks!  it has helped the  day get off to a nice start!

Posting pictures of the shirts has been daunting, because of the production constraints of the manufacturer. He ordinarily can't produce one shirt. We also can dye/weave any fabric until orders for at least 20 shirts are received. Less than 100 yards of material can't be produced because of the manner in which the looms need to be set up.

For the moment, in the next 2-3 days we're going to be offering a shirt on Styleforum for $155 (not including shipping). At retail, it will sell for $175 (not including shipping.) A picture of the finished garment will be shown.

We've convinced - after 4 weeks of bargaining - the manufacturer to make 3 sample shirts from 3 patterns left over from a previous order. They should be ready in 10 days. Pictures of those will be posted (and offered at $155, too.)

After that material is exhausted, designs will be posted on Styleforum. When orders for a least 20 shirts are received, they'll be put into production. Unfortunately, only pictures of the production process can (and will) be posted on Styleforum. But, finished garments can only be posted when they're - well - finished.

Hope that works.

Thanks.

The man speaks sense...you can produce the most wonderful product in the world but if you dont do it justice you cant rely on people appricating what it is if its not marketed well.

I mean the opposite happens all the time..why do you think so much goes into marketing and advertising..to sell people crap under the pretense its quality....

Do it the justice you think it deserves..

Loominous "Bleeding" Madras shirts are now available for pre-order on Styleforum. Thanks.

http://www.styleforummarket.com/loominous-new-england-shirt-company-authentic-bleeding-madras-shirt-styleforum-gmto/

The New England Shirt Co. one. While Mercer will be offering them in due course, that pattern (the one of Styleforum) is not one being offered. If you're interested in that particular pattern, the only way of obtaining it will be through Styleforum. When the current Styleforum offering sells out, other patterns will be offered first on Styleforum. If any fabric remains, it will be offered to Mercer. Remember: 100 yards of a given pattern need to be dyed/woven. So, if we sell 20 shirts on Styleforum (which is the minimum necessary for a particular offering to close), that = 50 yards. 50 yards will then be offered to Mercer. If 30 shirts are pre-ordered on Styleforum that = 75 yards. 25 will be offered to Mercer. Among the reasons for that is: Mercer can't take 100 yards of a given pattern at a time. If 40 shirts are sold on Styleforum that = 100 yards. No yardage will be available for Mercer.

The most that will be available of any given pattern/plaid are 40 shirts. Once 40 are sold, the pattern won't be offered again. The only way of anybody getting any shirts, however, is for 20 to be sold on Styleforum.

Last edited by aucociscokid2 (2015-11-09 16:30:30)

That's exactly what caught my eye - that plus alpha sizing. I'll stick to what I know: the Mercers (if I can find the funds).

Others may prefer the slimfit option.

Last edited by Yuca (2015-11-10 09:14:20)