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#1 2014-06-12 11:25:39

Tommy
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Keydge vs Alternatives

So I need a Summer jacket and I want something cotton  and shaped like a J keydge. I am willing to pay for the real deal, but I'm also intrested in other ideas. Put a cheeky bid in on an LVC Sunset but that's more of a work jacket, Dockers have something but it looks darted and has strange pocket details... Any other suggestions?

 

#2 2014-06-12 11:45:56

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Keydge is the way to go IMHO. Never regretted.

 

#3 2014-06-12 11:54:00

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Personally if you don't want to pay the money...and im not sure they're worth it re. The keydge. Id get a RL cotton 3 button like this.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi … 1106386412

These jackets are great, the proportions are perfect and because of the construction they can be altered.

If someone knocked these out without a dart youd have a winner. Also the dart doesnt make it waisted it sits better than the keydge.

If you really wanted no dart though...either go keydge or scour the vintage on ebay and etsy for a linen, seer sucker or madras sack.

 

#4 2014-06-12 11:55:44

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Avoid the custom fit RL...they're shit.

 

#5 2014-06-12 12:00:34

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I don't mind darts, but that unlined style is very hard to find. Keydge wear like iron, ventilate terrifically, wash in the machine and give you six pockets.

 

#6 2014-06-12 18:36:51

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I was in MUJI the other day. They had a "tweed" jacket and other unstructured jackets for around $130 aud = 72GBP  90EU=  or less from memory. None of below are exactly what was there. Seemed cheap and cheerful and ok to me for a casual jacket - not a bum freezer. Uniglo has lots of loose jackets but all are bum freezers.
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#7 2014-06-12 21:09:33

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

+1 Keydge

 

#8 2014-06-12 22:57:45

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Hold up six pockets? Ive counted five. .or are you counting the divided pocket as two? I just use that for poker winnings

 

#9 2014-06-12 23:57:44

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Well if jeans are 'five pockets', Keydges are six smile

 

#10 2014-06-13 00:23:55

Tommy
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

By poker winnings, you mean the spare buttons right?

 

#11 2014-06-13 00:33:20

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I thought they were a gift

 

#12 2014-06-13 01:39:46

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

What's the lightest material they do... because I wouldn't say these ramie ones are cool. A lot like being draped in a heavy canvas.

 

#13 2014-06-13 02:37:10

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

The linen is not light, but airy. I can even wear it as a sun cover-up in very hot weather.

For sheer lightness alone, old madras jackets are the way to go. Many of these are fully lined.

 

#14 2014-06-13 03:42:10

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

The earlier cotton ones seem lighter to me...?

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#15 2014-06-13 04:30:48

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I think I'm sold on Keydge, gonna have a look in JS when I'm up in Town next week.

 

#16 2014-06-13 04:41:51

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Uniqlo has some good ones in the past, but not seeing anything like that now n their site, maybe on ebay?


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#17 2014-06-13 05:13:13

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Like I said I think an RL for 50 quid is a much better deal than a full price keydge. The lining is buggy and in the sleeves but feels cooler than the ramie keydge, and the construction is better  But obviously it will be darted. I'll leave it at that good luck with your jacket hunt!

 

#18 2014-06-13 06:07:14

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Hve to second Bop. Keydge is great, an Ivy slack ticks almost all boxes: No darts, three patch pockets, unlined etc etc. But the RL are great, also. Over the years, I bought some in their outlet and like them, too. They almost always have darts, though. 

I a Keydge (Or RL) worth the full price? I am not sure.

Muji, as mentioned before,  (I really should get some kickbacks from them) always have unconstructed jackets, too.But from the discussed brands, they are the farest away from the ideal jacket most on here have in mind.


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#19 2014-06-13 14:09:07

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

Personally if you don't want to pay the money...and im not sure they're worth it re. The keydge. Id get a RL cotton 3 button like this.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi … 1106386412

These jackets are great, the proportions are perfect and because of the construction they can be altered.

If someone knocked these out without a dart youd have a winner. Also the dart doesnt make it waisted it sits better than the keydge.

If you really wanted no dart though...either go keydge or scour the vintage on ebay and etsy for a linen, seer sucker or madras sack.

I agree the above look better than Keydge. Personally I wouldn't wear one though (unless I had to wear a jacket for work), due to darts, sleeve buttons, alpha sizing, etc.

O'Connell's do a number of all cotton sacks that look infinitely better than Keydge, however they're not unconstructed, and they're not cheap. Also the gorge is too high on them, although they still look tasty. I'd love to try one in the flesh.


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#20 2014-06-13 15:04:29

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Alpha sizing is annoying but personally I couldnt call the xl to xll being much different than going from a 48 to a 50 on these RLs. The Oconnels however do sound good but like you mention with their cost. I was thinking about Tommy's restricted funds.

 

#21 2014-06-14 01:44:39

Tommy
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I've been putting a few pennies aside for this. I've had some luck with picking up a few things  like shirts  and shoes up lately. I'll look for the RL online and in outlets if I get the chance since it does  look nice and it only looks subtly darted. However I've seen a fella in passing the last few days on my travels at work who has picked up a sort of Ivy look, but is quite off on a few essential details. It made  me think that with something like this its important to get it right. That said I'm probably more intrested in McQueen/ Newman and the London adoption of the look than looking like I'm at Harvard  in 1962?

 

#22 2014-06-14 02:47:13

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

This is the problem with the keydge imo whether darted on not the complete look imo seems to be more european I think because of the high arm holes and shorter length. I'll take a dart on something that otherwise looks right than not having a dart on something that doesn't really grab the look.

 

#23 2014-06-14 02:56:50

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

http://www.theweejun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/550361_364991893538991_159213604116822_1005247_1383331873_n.jpg

Does that honestly look like an American styled jacket?

 

#24 2014-06-14 03:01:44

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I tell you what I do like about the keydge in cotton is it does carry its own charm in a way like an old 20s or 30s jacket

 

#25 2014-06-14 03:01:53

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

This is the problem with the keydge imo whether darted on not the complete look imo seems to be more european I think because of the high arm holes and shorter length. I'll take a dart on something that otherwise looks right than not having a dart on something that doesn't really grab the look.

You're spot on about the length.


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