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#1 2014-11-14 06:34:34
- SanchoPanza
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The OCBD of your dreams
What would it be? Vintage or new ones, doesn't matter.
I have come to the fact that I will NOT find a BB, white six-button. Ever. But that's a Dream OBCD. Though I think Fitzgerald supposedly were gonna make some white six-buttons...
#2 2014-11-14 07:02:39
- Harpo
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Can someone explain to me the fascination with 6 buttons - I've never understood it. It's all about the roll baby!
The best collar roll I own is a Sero.
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#4 2014-11-14 07:47:03
- Joey
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
As far as I have understood, the advantage of the 6-button is for those who go sans-tie. The distance between the top and second button is slightly more than on a 7-button placket. As a result, the 6-button shirt with the top button undone lays better than the 7-button shirt with the top button undone.
Beyond the functional reason, my only guess is that maybe it was a more ubiquitous choice back in the day. Or it's otherwise an attempt to go against the modern trend of 7-button shirts, just like we prefer sacks over the overwhelming trend toward darted suits today.
Since I only go tieless on weekends, I don't really go out of my way to get 6-button shirts, but that's my impression. Someone who staunchly adheres to the 6-button placket will probably have a more truthful observation.
My perfect OCBD costs $5 and doesn't skimp on fullness or collar size.
#6 2014-11-14 08:02:41
- Harpo
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Thanks Joey - it becomes clear to me now.
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#7 2014-11-14 09:19:20
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
The 6-button allows more chest hair billow to show. A plus in my book.
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#9 2014-11-14 13:46:10
- Armchaired
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Like Tommy. my ideal OCBD is a light Green and its got to be a Makers.
The only relevance for a 6 button makers for me is the slightly longer Collar that comes with it.
It also does look better with a T too.
I am not sure what you are saying about collar size there Dom.
I have three Fitzgerald's and the collar is the same size as a 6 button makers.
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#10 2014-11-14 13:52:06
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Nah, no way. My Fitz has a larger collar! Probably larger Fitzgerald's have the same size collar as, let's say, Small (mine is an S). The Makers shirts have a collar that's about 1cm shorter...
#11 2014-11-14 13:53:49
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
It is actually 1,5cm. 9cm on my Fitz, 7,5cm onmy late 50s Makers 
Ideal would be 8cm I suppose (on my size)
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#12 2014-11-14 13:56:59
- Armchaired
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#13 2014-11-14 14:02:28
- Leer R.
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
My 6 button Makers all have a 3" collar. Size is 15,5. They are from different decades, from the 1950s to the 90s...
Fitz is about 3,5". I can think that the collar on the Fitz is always the same, but on the Makers they varied and got bigger with size?
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#14 2014-11-14 14:07:28
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
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#15 2014-11-14 14:41:59
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Yeah. My point measures about 3 inches going full tilt. That's average, right?
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#16 2014-11-14 14:46:02
- Leer R.
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Yes it does... The Fitz rolls a tad 'too much'. Something in between would be 'it'...
#17 2014-11-14 21:02:54
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#18 2014-11-14 21:06:47
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
All my Makers, 14.5 to 15.5, six- and seven-button, have approximately 3.25 - 3.5" points. Not a single one is a laughable 3. The Fitz has a legit 3.5 incher, by my measurement.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#19 2014-11-14 22:07:31
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Aren't the Mercer collars around 3.7" with 6 buttons? Seems rather large, but I haven't seen to many pictures of them worn without ties. I'm thinking of trying one, but they're really expensive.
#20 2014-11-15 06:02:43
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Jivy take advantage of the 'first time buyer' discount of 25%.
I have a couple of Mercers, an oxford and a poplin both are lovely shirts, I wouldn't go for their oxford again (others make nicer oxford IMHO) but the poplin is superb
The Mercers shirts are just under 3-1/2" (7/16ths to be exact), some nice pics on their website.
http://www.mercerandsons.com/Peek_Into_Our_Closet.htm
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#21 2014-11-15 06:41:11
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
That's weird. My Mercer point is just over 3.5. Perhaps we're uncovering a general inconsistency here, or either some of the points have shrank in the wash over time?
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#22 2014-11-15 10:20:23
- Leer R.
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
I suppose it is inconsistency...
#23 2014-11-15 15:14:35
- Runninggeez
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Have to agree with Harpo, the best OCBD I own is a Sero " Purist ".
#24 2014-11-16 00:14:37
- Jivy
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Hmmm...
http://www.oconnellsclothing.com/product.php?productid=19650&cat=853&page=1
#25 2014-11-16 02:50:21
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Re: The OCBD of your dreams
Called me biased but I do love the fizzy's, though the early Gant ruggers were a good otp option - not bought any for a few years now, but damn those monkey length arms.
Not tried mercer and though I would like to, the customs sting even with the discount makes the fizzy a more cost conscious option.