^ There is a trend in doing that - lowering the second button to give a more open shirt when worn open without a tie.

I learned all about this when getting involved in buying some online MTM shirts. A typical length between the top button and second button is 3.5". 3.5" will seem normal to most guys (I've read that this is JCrew and BB's standard).  Extending that a half inch to 4" gives you a noticeably more open shirt, and I wouldn't recommend ever going any more than that. Even the 4" gap provides a look that reads a bit as "cool guy", and could be considered naff or atleast undesirable for daytime, work wear. Although some will really like this look. Personally, I tried the 4" spacing on a couple MTM shirts (from Ratio)...it's nice in the right context, however, for max versatility, I am sticking with 3.5" for all future MTM shirts.

One of the expensive, iGent shirt companies—Ledbury—has a standard second button lowered slightly more than 4". I've heard atleast one person over on AAAC say that they bought a couple Ledbury shirts but won't buy any more because of that feature.

Is the reason people like vintage, 6 button Brooks OCBDs for the greater spacing of the second button? (...that doesn't seem like something that would appeal to this forum).

I've bought two and returned two of their shirts - I want the whole venture to succeed and the customer service is great but I just find the sizing too strange.
The sleeves in particular are just bizarrely long - they must be catering for around 1% of the population there.
The collar roll is good though on the last two I bought and sent back.

After postal service lost it I recently got my (second) chambray after many weeks...

Sleeves are bizarre but - I hope they shrink enough in the dryer (worked well with the other Lean Garments shirts)... let's see.

waist is slightly (VERY slightly, about 1cm) more suppressed than version 2.2... It is slightly more A shape which is not too good, if you plan to wear it untucked. Tucked in it looks good...

collar is better with version 2.2, because of the button being lowered - but it isn't bad either. Quality and colour of the cloth is VERY good, all in all it seems to be very well made.

Last edited by Leer R. (2016-04-08 05:43:13)

Would have liked it MUCH more if it were more like version 2.2

It's certainly crawling up, and as a few folk have said the cut is not like it was i'm also waiting for the Popover.

I'm holding off for their popovers, hopefully they will offer different colours/ patterns and perhaps even a short sleeve option.

Toyed with the Gingham popover - but didn't pull the plug, looks like they have had a run on orders since that email landed, pretty much all stock is gone as far as I can tell.

Just pre-ordered the flannel popover.

https://leangarments.com/collections/popover-shirts/products/flannel-check-popover

Looks like theyre really trying to go for that slim untucked look

not sure when you would ever wear an untucked flannel shirt though?

is it cold enough to wear flannel? then i want it tucked un.
is it warm? then i don't want to wear flannel.