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#1 2015-03-26 11:34:19

Bonesman
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The Question of Sneakers

Good day, gentlemen,

I'm going to Spain in 8 weeks and want to treat myself to a pair of sneakers.

I've thought about Superga, have had bad experiences with Jack Ps and I'm telling myself there's nothing wrong with Chuck Taylors even though every second person seems to wear them.

Which would you choose?

 

#2 2015-03-26 11:45:36

YoungSoulRebel
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

I'm a fan of Adidas samba or gazelles, clean looking, comfy... But I'm sure it's just a holdover from my decade of being the only "Casual" in the USA haha.

 

#3 2015-03-26 12:21:56

DrYes
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Adidas in any way is tainted since I saw what they do with it in Russia

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32011404/GIFs/2419p1y.gif


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#4 2015-03-26 12:25:14

YoungSoulRebel
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

DrYes wrote:

Adidas in any way is tainted since I saw what they do with it in Russia

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/320 … 419p1y.gif

HAHAHAHAHA! Russians and Eastern Europeans ruin everything...

 

#5 2015-03-26 14:29:20

Yuca
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Stan Smiths for me. But I wear them about once a year - desert boots are a far superior choice for super-casual, super, casual summer days.


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#6 2015-03-26 14:34:29

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Re: The Question of Sneakers

^
I'm with you on the desert boot recommendation.  They get far more wear than my PF Flyers.


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#7 2015-03-26 15:17:28

woofboxer
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Bonesman wrote:

Good day, gentlemen,

I'm going to Spain in 8 weeks and want to treat myself to a pair of sneakers.

I've thought about Superga, have had bad experiences with Jack Ps and I'm telling myself there's nothing wrong with Chuck Taylors even though every second person seems to wear them.

Which would you choose?

Superga...... they are classical, clean lined and simplistic.


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#8 2015-03-26 17:40:43

stanshall
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Adidas sneakers have seriously declined ... they've all gone pear-shaped as you lot used to say

there are still a couple of models that appeal but the materials aren't good anymore ... rubber's featherweight, lots of plastic, glue is weak, etc. ....

and the real dealbreaker with Adidas and Pumas, vis a vis some of the classics, is their continued use of synthetic vinyl linings

these horrible things crack, can't be fixed, do not breathe, and make your feet hot, and really can't be worn sockless ...

line the shoes with fabric textile, or leather, or leave them unlined, and the sneaks will be less desperately shite

plus Adidas have done some insane things with some Ecstasy-inspired party monster disco shoes that are insane ... Jeremy Scott is the name of the culprit ....

but Gazelles, Campus, Stan Smith, Rod Laver, Country, and Superstar are all staples of the Late Ivy for those who were there for that transition ....

would be nice to have a nice pair of Country, white with green, all leather, with substantial, non-marshmallow quality, soles

the Gazelles bit the big one when the tongue was changed from suede to sharp plastic and then elongated so that it could dig into your ankles sharply with each step ....

but the silhouette is still amazing and conceivably the quality could rebound if the company wanted to make them less cheaply .....

Puma, with its rich history of wear by Pele, John Carlos, Lee Evans, Usain Bolt, Walt Frazier, Guillermo Vilas et al., still offers the suede classic, which stands the test of time lookswise but fails in that it still comes lined with awful polyvinyl .....

Vans, Converse, Jack Purcell, Sperry are still putting out canvas shoes that are serviceable, plus there are Dunlop Volley, Spring Court, Tretorn, Superga, Pony, PF Flyers, Keds, SeaVees ....

and many others, including boutique sneaks from new brands, including some nice Japanese stuff, but they are at least twice the price of the standard mass market sneakers

roots sneakers from Africa, Ethiopia if I recall ... which make me wish for some old Batas I loved ....

of course there are the great N e W B a L a N nc e running shoes, some made in the USA and UK even, and I like them but they're not Ivy though certainly preppy, still urban hipster, and slightly orthopedic and nerdy as well ....

N i K e  have recently issued some good old-school trail runners too ....

I am into sneakers a lot if you couldn't tell, this is just the tip of the iceberg

the last pairs I have bought include Ne w B a l a n ce USA, Vans, Converse All-Star, and some killer Pumas, finally, with textile linings, from a sneakerhead hip-hop kind of place ... word up

Last edited by stanshall (2015-03-26 17:47:02)


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#9 2015-03-26 17:40:56

Tommy
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Sperry CVO, or Vans Authentic have a nice shape which I don't think has changed much since '66?

 

#10 2015-03-26 18:53:57

Runninggeez
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Spring Courts, very french and very retro.

 

#11 2015-03-26 21:20:16

katon
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

I find filtering by country of manufacture makes the choice much easier.

For sneakers, "Made in England", "Made in Germany", or "Made in USA" are good places to start. Are Spring Courts still made in France? If so, they're probably a good option.

http://www.wildernessleisure.co.uk/ekmps/shops/wildernessweb/images/the-original-white-plimsolls-%5B4%5D-432-p.jpg

Not sure about England, but the military seems to be offloading their old stock of canvas gym shoes; check with a few surplus dealers and you might find a nice English-made deadstock pair in your size. :-) (Example @ 7.95 a pair: http://www.wildernessleisure.co.uk/the- … -432-p.asp) These would play nicely with vintage Ivy.

http://i.imgur.com/18NEErL.jpg

Adidas does still occasionally release "Made in Germany" versions of their shoes -- they're offering a German-made Stan Smith at the moment: http://www.adidas.com/us/stan-smith-mad … =B25941_13 Probably good for 70s Ivy. :-)

http://i.imgur.com/y46U5dZ.jpg

If you're looking for canvas, you can remove USA, as I don't believe anyone in the States makes canvas shoes anymore. American-made Ne w Balance aren't bad for a post-70s look (such as the 1982 990 above), but they clash with vintage Ivy.

Last edited by katon (2015-03-26 22:10:47)

 

#12 2015-03-27 04:39:24

stanshall
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

/\  those made-in-Germany Stan Smiths are  a step in the right direction but they're virtually sold out at this point, I dig them but probably would not have shelled out $200+ for them

/\  agree with Katon that the N e w B a l a n c e s do not jibe with Ivy, I never try to force that issue but always wear mine with jeans, tees, hoodies, shorts, in a post B-Boy stylee ....

sneakers and hoodies and t-shirts and jeans are how I personally divagate from the strict Ivy mode when necessary and when indicated .... which is often ....

but even when I'm wearing sneaks I'm still sporting the good old Brooks tie-back boxers so I've got that going for me .....


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#13 2015-03-27 04:54:57

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Re: The Question of Sneakers

If I was to really wear 'em again seriously, I'd have to go for comfort over style now mein hooves are knackered...

I know they're very flavour of the month at the mo but I'm with Stan...NB always seem nice n almost  awkward...but very comfy...

Adidas have some great vintage lines of course which I still love.. but I'd say you're going for looks over support there..same with Converse/Vans of course...but they remain a timeless classic..
I've some Old Tretorn's too which I've been meaning to dig out...tho can't see me wearing again tbh..

I'd go with what you like regardless of whether it ticks the right boxes Bones... but then I'd say that about any item of apparel he he..


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#14 2015-03-27 05:26:00

Moose Maclennan
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Since I see DBs for summer wear mentioned - don't make the same mistake I did and leave them in the car on a hot day. The crepe degrades and becomes sticky and stays that way.

 

#15 2015-03-27 05:42:57

Thee Captain
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

And Puma Clydes/States...naturally...


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#16 2015-03-27 08:13:01

stanshall
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Thee Captain wrote:

And Puma Clydes/States...naturally...

oh yeah, I mentioned them above (Suede Classics) .... recently got a great pair of Puma Star too, all leather, textile-lined, beautiful G. Vilas silhouette ...... color is called "peacoat"!

but the problem with the vinyl lining on the Classics/Clydes/Baskets persists .....

but on the brighter side I have noticed that some Adidas and Puma models now feature textile linings, which is something to support ....

now if Vans and Converse would just use some better sidewall glue ....

and seriously Adidas: fix the torture tongue on the Gazelles and also use some glue that means business on that shoe and I'll be back, otherwise it's a continued auf wiedersehen!

Last edited by stanshall (2015-03-27 13:31:04)


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#17 2015-03-27 09:18:46

stanshall
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

YoungSoulRebel wrote:

DrYes wrote:

Adidas in any way is tainted since I saw what they do with it in Russia

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32011404/GIFs/2419p1y.gif

HAHAHAHAHA! Russians and Eastern Europeans ruin everything...

what you're seeing is the effect of economic sanctions on the Bolshoi Ballet ... this is as good as it's going to get from our friends over there .....


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#18 2015-03-27 10:08:30

ZarJazz
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Thee Captain wrote:

And Puma Clydes/States...naturally...

Yes.
My trainers of choice until my godamn arches dropped.

 

#19 2015-03-27 10:15:40

Thee Captain
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

ZarJazz wrote:

Thee Captain wrote:

And Puma Clydes/States...naturally...

Yes.
My trainers of choice until my godamn arches dropped.

Yep..Foot Knack is a shit ZJ...


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#20 2015-03-27 10:17:48

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Re: The Question of Sneakers


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#21 2015-03-27 10:23:08

Worried Man
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

I'm considering some of these dainty little prancers for the long hot summer.

http://a1.zassets.com/images/z/5/9/1/9/7/4/591974-p-4x.jpg


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#22 2015-03-27 10:29:36

Thee Captain
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/4322_adidas-superstar-80s-run-dmc-figurines-480x336.jpg


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#23 2015-03-27 11:13:08

Tommy
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Worried Man wrote:

I'm considering some of these dainty little prancers for the long hot summer.

http://a1.zassets.com/images/z/5/9/1/9/ … 4-p-4x.jpg

Had a pair in the past for summer use,  very comfy but went on the toes eventually

 

#24 2015-03-27 12:05:08

Worried Man
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

^
I guess I'd sort of expect that.  Most sneakers I've worn over the past 20 years have had some issue rear its head relatively soon, usually, as Stan pointed out, glue giving way around the sidewall or the insole lifting or an eyelet getting blown out.  But there really is relatively little in the way of a plain no-frills white CVO on the market at the moment.


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#25 2015-03-27 12:25:00

Tomiskinky
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Re: The Question of Sneakers

Keds are good WM, but soak up every odour!

My two-penneth is to look at the Walsh Pennine Adder made in Bolton England, they had a brilliant ripple sole and are mentally light, perfect for walking around. Colours can be a bit mad, I have the grey and blue. Might look a touch modern but have hardly changed since they were launched in the 60s.


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