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#26 2015-07-31 12:36:17

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I stand by it! Great looking but not good by JPs standards (my fav director)..and not that great generally. Jean-luc Goddard is god awful and I can't stand much of his either.

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#27 2015-07-31 13:00:25

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Le Samouraï is the 3rd Melville I've seen, and I like it about as much as the other 2, which are Le Dolous and Bob le flambeur. Perhaps the latter has the edge partly because the period it's from appeals more to me and it's more lighthearted. Belmondo is amazing in Le Dolous but I wouldn't put it above Le Samouraï. (I now have Le Cercle Rouge on order incidentally. I should have got the box set instead of getting them separately and then I would have seen it some time ago.)

I will admit that French movies had stopped being the best in the world by the mid 60s, but Le Samouraï (67) is a classic. Now I just have to wait a few months to rewatch.


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#28 2015-07-31 13:09:18

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I've seen 3 others by Goddard that range from so so (Alphaville) to downright crap (Bande à part and Pierrot le Fou). This is when French movies went from brilliance to pretentious crap imo (obviously that's a generalisation). What I find bizarre is that Pierrot le Fou was highly successful in France, yet it's so excruciatingly tedious it's pretty much unwatchable.

However A bout de souffle, despite Seberg being a bit annoying, is great, although I haven't seen it for a while.

I can't stand Jules et Jim (Truffaut 62) either incidentally - tedious predictable crap imo. (And I'm a vintage French movie fanatic.) However the one Truffaut did before that was Tirez sur le pianiste, which is superb. Go figure.


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#29 2015-07-31 13:11:53

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What's torturous is that there are some old French movies that look absolutely superb but are unavailable with English subtitles. Or they are available on subtitled DVD but only at extortionate cost.


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#30 2015-07-31 13:13:11

Yuca
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A real 1st world problem.


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#31 2015-07-31 13:13:32

Bop
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I find it a bit like Tokyo Drifter I love the look but feel the film doesn't offer much. Critics seem to love it but I feel its style over substance. Maybe I hoped to much and it let me down. But I prefer most of his other work. Le Circle Rouge and Bob being my favs..it didn't match it for me...I think the atmosphere doesn't make up for the cold character portrayed by Delon

 

#32 2015-07-31 13:25:53

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As a fan of the 50s though Yuca you have to watch this one..not his critically acclaimed best.. But the coolest by a long stretch.
Two Men in Manhattan - Trailer" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/7Vo-67zxTx8

 

#33 2015-07-31 13:28:55

Yuca
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I've considered getting Two Men . . . but resisted for reasons I can't recall. I'll follow your recommendation.

Incidentally I found Tokyo Drifter completely tedious and stuck my copy on Amazon after 1 viewing (and had no difficulty selling it).


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#34 2015-07-31 13:56:03

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The 50s is the coolest decade..you know this to be true I know this to be true...things got progressively wankier as times went on with Godard reaching the pinnacle of wankiness in the mid to late 60s...the 60s was not cool. It was too knowing, the 50s had a battle hardened bunch...and they were cool.

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#35 2015-07-31 17:13:33

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#36 2015-08-01 18:24:25

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I recently had someone contact me through my Etsy shop to see if I could throw together some outfits for them for a fashion show that had some link to the new The Man From U.N.C.L.E movie.  They hoped I could build some '60s outfits for them and specifically asked if I had any plaid pants.  ?????


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#37 2015-08-01 18:27:52

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Haha you're internationally known for your pants!

I have a pair of vintage 60's black watch tartan that might be of interest to them? Get in touch if so...

 

#38 2015-08-02 04:27:25

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"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#39 2015-08-04 23:34:03

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My father sold clothes in an upscale mens store in the 50's and 60's. Top of the line were Hickey-Freeman wool suits. All were shades of grey, blue, and very subdued plaid that looked grey if you were more than 5 ft. away. Hats were Dobbs or Stetson. Trousers were made in NY and had side adjusters. Shoes were Florsheim or Bostonian (back when bostonians were quality). Shirts were made by a large shirt company that placed the store label in them. The oxford cloth was so thick the shirts would last forever. The shirts were sanforized, and had a stamp on them, whatever that is. When my dad found out Nixon wore Hickey Freeman suits he was ecstatic. I had to iron all my shirts and i asked him about wash and wear. He went beserk and told me those shirts were hot and the polyester pilled. He sent his shirts out to a chinese laundry.

 

#40 2015-08-05 03:21:42

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Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#41 2015-08-05 03:58:15

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“I have never listened to anyone who criticised my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.”
Ray Bradbury

 

#42 2015-08-05 04:01:02

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#43 2015-08-06 03:24:08

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#44 2015-08-06 03:25:38

Yuca
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I find US films of the 40s equally disappointing. It's true it was the noirs that inspired 50s French cinema, but I still find almost all 40s films disappointing.


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#45 2015-08-06 07:28:51

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Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#46 2015-08-06 07:59:58

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#47 2015-08-06 10:17:45

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#48 2015-08-06 12:52:19

Yuca
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I watched Rebel Without a Cause recently and I thought that was tedious beyond belief too. And I haven't seen one decent Hitchcock. Sorry if I'm offending anyone but I just don't find such films remotely engaging.


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#49 2015-08-06 14:18:12

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Have you not seen 'Psycho'? 'The 39 Steps?' 'North By Northwest'? Hell I'm eighteen and I  love those films so I know it's not a generation gap thing.

 

#50 2015-08-06 14:24:52

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I am mostly with you on Hithcock. The exception being Marnie. Tough subject matter. With Connery in a far from heroic role. Great performance. Great wardrobe too.

I am sure you've seen it, Yuca but my favourite from that 40's/50's is Sunset Boulevard. What you think of it?

 

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