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#351 2017-02-27 11:55:48

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

/\  thanks BB, looking forward to your pics, I know you'll figure it out sooner or later, and btw ragg socks with blucher mocs is a full dose of Late '70s Prep, my entire approach to winter changed for the better when I got into wool socks and decided that socklessness was best left to spring and summer ....

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Thee Captain, I have always had a soft spot for Patagonia fleece, of course Bean down vests back in the day, but the humble fleece was making its first appearances in the world back around '79 and '80 and I was an early adopter, turned onto fleece, the then-new miracle fabric, by a sailor girlfriend, who found it at a sailing shop, which proved to be a great, semi-secret source for gear that was useful in the rain and mist .....

I have at least two Patagonia fleeces from Paragon, mid-to-late '90s and made in the USA, which I really like, and a couple from the mid-to-late '80s as well, including one pullover in an acid neon green that I wore a lot, back in the day, with my Meat Puppets and Butthole Surfers t-shirts ......

because sometimes the place would get too prepped-out and a bit of Hunter Thompson garish horror would be required ....

in fact I really wanted a couple of full hippie-patterned Synchilla snap-t pullovers this year but by the time I realized I liked them they was gone, gone, gone (gonna miss your baby, from rollin' in your arms) ....

https://img1.etsystatic.com/138/1/13558921/il_340x270.1094478155_3c1x.jpg


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#352 2017-03-10 13:40:53

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Culled from 80s Sewanee yearbooks...

https://s26.postimg.org/k7mpj032h/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_07_46.png
https://s26.postimg.org/ryyu3thu1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_06_17.png
https://s26.postimg.org/70so5qhzd/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_17_29.png
https://s26.postimg.org/yzmtwljm1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_07_09.png
https://s26.postimg.org/eqzgavkax/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_05_47.png
https://s26.postimg.org/555vukt55/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_04_51.png
https://s26.postimg.org/4ed5osqrt/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_01_57.png
https://s26.postimg.org/msnoss32h/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_12_01_26.png
https://s26.postimg.org/3z1vvs4uh/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_11_59_51.png
https://s26.postimg.org/ew37kjrm1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_11_58_16.png
https://s26.postimg.org/pu9vozqtl/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_11_58_01.png
https://s26.postimg.org/f4w6wqf0p/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_11_48_48.png
https://s26.postimg.org/4tju42nbd/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_11_48_31.png


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#353 2017-03-11 21:43:15

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Stan... I've seen Ivy "wardrobes" from the 50s or 60s... the basics/essentials every man should have (x # of ties, shirts, etc...)... You've posted such a wealth of info here about this particular subgenre of Ivy, info I've taken copious notes on... but if it had to be distilled - what were the very essentials of the 70s/80s prep style, in your opinion?

(Yes, this is a baldfaced attempt to get you to drop more of that stanshall wisdom on us all...)


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#354 2017-03-14 12:54:46

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

More yearbooks...
https://s26.postimg.org/6hwrny5c9/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_16_19_07.png
https://s26.postimg.org/3zb2n9jm1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_16_16_28.png
https://s26.postimg.org/4njx67ibt/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_16_14_30.png
https://s26.postimg.org/8inb8s1hl/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_16_10_03.png
https://s26.postimg.org/d34w9yvt5/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_16_08_10.png
https://s26.postimg.org/4jlic7ngp/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_49_51.png
https://s26.postimg.org/nanfmdi15/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_46_49.png
https://s26.postimg.org/9fp53wnm1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_45_43.png
https://s26.postimg.org/5ut9koj2h/Screen_Shot_2017_03_10_at_15_44_10.png


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#355 2017-03-14 13:02:14

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

Stan... I've seen Ivy "wardrobes" from the 50s or 60s... the basics/essentials every man should have (x # of ties, shirts, etc...)... You've posted such a wealth of info here about this particular subgenre of Ivy, info I've taken copious notes on... but if it had to be distilled - what were the very essentials of the 70s/80s prep style, in your opinion?

(Yes, this is a baldfaced attempt to get you to drop more of that stanshall wisdom on us all...)

been workin' something up for you BB, never fear, it'll be ready soon, but in the meantime whoa nice pics!  /\ /\ /\


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#356 2017-03-14 13:08:09

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

No worries stan... I'll just keep amusing myself over here with these yearbooks... What I really love about them is they give the full range, not just the archetypical looks found in the HTJ archive but also cutoff khakis for shorts, lots of baseball caps, sneaks and t-shirts, many variations on jean styles...

Very much looking forward to what you're cooking up, stan!


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#357 2017-03-16 10:58:00

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

More 80s/70s yearbooks...

https://s26.postimg.org/s2fshlh1l/Screen_Shot_2017_03_14_at_18_01_51.png
https://s26.postimg.org/h44izesg9/Screen_Shot_2017_03_14_at_19_44_06.png
https://s26.postimg.org/shr2am2yx/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_15_39_42.png
https://s26.postimg.org/t8jsge5c9/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_16_25_15.png
https://s26.postimg.org/k21ht403t/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_16_28_23.png
https://s26.postimg.org/u7vunhzex/Screen_Shot_2017_03_11_at_23_22_08.png
https://s26.postimg.org/enogwypah/Screen_Shot_2017_03_11_at_23_37_30.png
https://s26.postimg.org/brk9z0txl/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_23_47_56.png

Blatant OPH ripoff (sports header from one yearbook)...
https://s26.postimg.org/ds68640p5/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_17_13_06.png


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#358 2017-03-16 11:33:49

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

/\  the pics you just posted nail a lot of it .....

brief version, wrote this the other night:

BB, as most know the essentials are dealt with in the Official Preppy Handbook, but I can discuss some of the stuff I remember liking ....

Preface:  we had had L. L. Bean blankets on our beds and used their duffel bags for more than ten years before we ever had any clothes or shoes from them ....

we wore Bean-like stuff, but from Sears, and a couple of great local sporting goods stores, Burdine's department store, and a little old mom and pop shop my parents supported, which had Levi's, Gant, Sero, Lacoste, Woolrich, London Fog, Arrow, Hathaway, McGregor, plus crew socks, tube socks, and more ....

From 1972 to 1978, jr. high [public] and high school [private], my school clothes were mainly chambray shirts in different blues and in ecru, worn with Levi's straight cords in navy, tan, light blue, gray, brown, black, and the awesome bottle green, sometimes I wore a leather belt with a bronze O-ring buckle, sometimes I forgot the belt altogether.

In junior high I wore sneakers every single day, I had one pair of shoes, which were Weejuns, which were my good shoes, but I was a sneaker freak back then, I dug and wore Adidas Gazelle, Campus, Stan Smith, Superstar, Promodel, Rod Laver, and Country, and World Cup cleats, as well as Puma Clyde and Basket, and the Pele cleats.  Also Converse All-Stars high-top and low-top, and Converse One-Star, and Pro-Keds high and low.  Pair of Tretorns when they arrived.  N!ke was not in the picture for me then.

Our private school had a dress code: no jeans, socks mandatory, button-front shirts with collars, no t-shirts or polo shirts except for certain Fridays, no loafers, lace-up shoes were required, no sneakers, tie was required of men, and the women had to wear these great school pinafores, which were actually miniskirts.  Because the place was not air-conditioned, the sport coat/blazer requirement had been dropped shortly before I got there, which was good, because the classrooms were hot.  Later we had school crest polo shirts that were acceptable.

Some guys wore khakis but I didn't like them that much then because I saw how they got dusty fast, and also I thought they were really square back then. 

On really hot days I sometimes wore poplin walk shorts, which was permitted, I wore them a few times each semester, for a laugh.  I also had oxford cloth button-down shirts of all kinds, including short-sleeved ones for very hot days ..... Of course we had our sneakers, cleats, and Adidas track spikes.

In compliance with the dress code I wore Clarks Treks, desert boots, and Wallabees, and Sperry Top-Siders in high school.   

on the weekends I wore all sorts of cotton t-shirts, ringers, crew-style placket tees, henleys, and Lacoste, Fred Perry, and Adidas polo shirts, Levi's 505s, and different sneakers, I didn't like to wear school clothes on the weekend, my weekend Adidas were like Montreals, SL trainers, Ilie Nastases).

Had a brown suede bomber jacket with wool ribbed collar and cuffs, and a gray v-neck Lord Jeff cashmere sweater from a nice shop in either Amherst or Hanover. 

then came the college years, 1978-82:  short version: I stayed with the Levi's cords, switched the Sero and Gant shirts for J. Press, moved into blucher mocs, stayed with the Sperry Top-Siders in various models plus canvas deck shoes, retired the Clarks, switched from 505 to 501 jeans, got a peacoat from Saks University Shop, a down jacket from Colorado, a 60/40 parka, and a couple of Shaggy Dogs,, few other pieces, several scarves from Brooks and Press, a beautiful new tweed 3/2 sack sport coat with short center vent and two on the sleeve, from Press, in heather honey-brown herringbone with faint broken vertical tick stripes in green and blue, and a thrifted old brown tweed from a shop near Louis Lunch (which was an even better coat than the one from Press) , and a pair of Red Wing 875s .... plus a couple of beautiful Shetlands from other places, Brooks of course, but also one particular gray/blue lovat fave from a wonderful shop called White of New Haven.       

When I visited girlfriends at their schools, from the first weekend I ever spent there I saw nearly every gal wearing head-to-toe L. L. Bean, and after that I wanted to wear only a little bit of the stuff myself, and I limited it especially because I wore blucher mocs every day as it was. Though they were actually from the Co-Op, a good $5 cheaper than Bean for the identical unbranded made-in-Maine real thing.  Things cost about $18.  Lasted 18 years, resoled them twice. 

But a certain amount of Bean got in there anyway, and in addition to the brown Bean duffles and the point blankets in both green and red, I also had the green mountain anorak, the blue and white Norwegian sweater, chamois shirts in tan, navy, and bottle green, pair of brown Maine Hunting shoes, ragg socks, and very good khakis.  That actually sounds like a lot of stuff.  Also I eventually had a pair of their penny loafers I think and a pair of the gray wool woodsman's pants with faint red windowpane overcheck.  Also the field watch.  Loved that thing.

I never did have one of those beautiful green down vests, or any Bean down jacket, but I did have a great Eddie Bauer down jacket with corduroy around the neck, that was a great thing, and freshman year I ordered a huge down jacket made of khaki poplin, with forest green lining, and an excellent hood, wish I could remember where it came from, possibly Paragon Sporting Goods .....

down jackets and vests were worn by everybody, boarding school preps included, but by sophomore year I had figured out how to do without them, because as I've written before, there weren't enough places to hang up or stash bulky jackets, the seats, desks, classrooms at my college were antiques built for a smaller generation of college students ......

A real paradox was that some of the most hardcore legacy preps dressed very casually (most of the time), and people would be laughed at for piling on the head-to-toe over-the-top stuff, like there was one guy, he was a rich preppy kid but was unpopular, he used to wear green wide-wales, Norwegian sweater, Bean boots, Brooks fun shirts, all at the same time, ... we still talk about this dude and his name has long stood for "overdone prep."  In the heyday of preppy I downshifted into Levi's and tees, baseball caps, and sneakers, though my blucher mocs and faded-blue canvas deck sneakers were tell-tale.  Even though my most treasured items were all hand-me-down t-shirts, overshirts, hoodies, and jeans jackets, they came from some of the preppiest kids in the world, and I still have all that stuff, pulled out an ancient irreplaceable t-shirt the other day to look at it and laugh.  Scoring a coveted item off a friend for free was something I really enjoyed, but I gave clothes to my friends as well.  Girlfriends just flat-out stole stuff they liked, particularly v-neck sweaters and old ocbds.       

so, the girls at my girlfriends' schools wore massive Bean, actually carried field-hockey sticks around, and my friends from boarding schools dressed down because they were all Deadheads, and I did not have any real actual cash or credit cards as a teenager in school, but I did have charge accounts at the Co-Op and I also set one up at J. Press, and between those two places, and a local shop that sold Levi's, Hanes, Lincoln-green Dickies, and Champion reverse-weave hoodies, I collected some good stuff ....

didn't get to Brooks Brothers much myself with a couple of exceptions, but I would receive birthday and Christmas presents of Brooks made-in-England lambswool v-neck sweaters and Brooksflannel shirts, which was special .....

Back to college: Had my reasons not to look like a textbook prep, which predated the OPH, I was a freshman in fall '78, the OPH came out in '80, the book was based on us, kids from my years in school, not vice versa ....

I figured out how to streamline with a blanket-lined Levi's jacket, and a regular Levi's trucker jacket, and a corduroy trucker jacket.  When I wore the cord jacket I wore jeans or khakis.  With the denim jackets I wore cords or khakis, thus avoiding the dreaded denim/denim or cord/cord combos.  (Though I actually liked the denim tuxedo I must confess.)

I had a Champion sweatshirt, a couple of J. Press Viyella shirts, couple of Press and Bean medium and wide-wale cords, Levi's cords, Bean and Orvis khakis.

A vintage Champion Durene zip-front varsity hoodie, from a real-live varsity goalie friend from another Ivy school, nobody else there had one of those, plus a college crewneck sweatshirt in navy with white letters, from the Co-Op, standard issue but actually never worn, unlike some other college t-shirts that I did love to wear.  We had residential colleges, so a lot of our t-shirts had the names of residential colleges on them, e.g., "Davenport" or Pierson," rather than the name of the university ... bit more esoteric ... I had a Lowell House t-shirt, a Duke t-shirt, a reversible tee from a famous school in New Jersey, t-shirts from other schools that people gave to me, they were less obvious than my own college t-shirts.

Many shirts from J. Press, it was cheaper to buy a new shirt than to do laundry.  Hanes t-shirts and Jockey underwear at the Co-Op and the local jeans store, which also had Dickies.

Two striped square-end knit ties from J. Press, made in England, wore them for Thanksgiving and Christmas . 

Had a red union suit for freezing nights in the old freshman dorm, which had not been renovated for 65 years.  That was a cold dorm, we burned a ton of wood in that fireplace but it barely heated the rooms, Arctic blasts coming right through the mullioned windows, with beautiful colored glass panes, last puttied in 1913.  Had a Viyella bathrobe and one in  seersucker too.  Couple of knit ski hats as well, with and without bobbles.  Couple of baseball caps.

A nylon and neoprene windbreaker from a sailing shop by the Sound preferred by some of the varsity sailors, a brilliant item that nobody else there was wearing.   The girl who turned me on to the sailing store also insisted I wear Levi's 501s, bought me a cool fleece jacket from Conway, NH, and approved of my Top-Siders in oiled brown Kudu with ecru soles thicker than the regular white ones on the standard boat shoe.

The Co-Op had a great sneaker department and was a reliable source of choice footwear, and I recall very clearly my happiness at discovering that they had Jack Purcells, which I had in off-white, black, and navy, and Sperry Top-Sider canvas deck sneakers, which I had in faded navy and off-white, and my first pair of N!kes, white canvas tennis shoe with rubber toe cap and royal swoosh, classic McEnroe shoe, and a pair of Fred Perry Etonics in white canvas with a navy blue stripe inset with a laurel.  Also, the Co-Op had Foot-Joy squash sneakers in gray & off-white suede and mesh with gum rubber soles, as well as Dunlop and Grays racquets, Fred Perry and Lacoste polos and racquet and gym bags.  The tennis shorts of the day were generally cut very short but there were a couple of ways around this problem, one day I'll disclose the way I solved it.

Finally, right next to the counter where one could buy plane tickets, the Co-Op had a big glass case with sunglasses, Ray-Bans and Vuarnets, and that was where I picked up my shades, over the years I had aviators, Outdoorsman in green and in black, Shooter, Wayfarers, and my faves, Caravans with cable temples, and various Vuarnet Skilynxes and others.

Across the street and down the block there was Barrie Ltd., a nice shoe shop, the salesmen there were good old gents, I bought dirty bucks (Walk-Over) and a pair of Northampton bench-made plain-toe blucher shoes in brown calfskin, which I really liked, in my mind they were my punk/New Wave footwear.  Pretty funny.

During summer vacations I had chances to get to Brooks Brothers, where I became devoted to theit short-sleeved summer button-down collar shirts in pima broadcloth, and I also loved this cream-colored terry longtail polo shirt from them, with no logo on it anywhere.

By the time the OPH came out I was wearing denim and cord trucker jackets, Levi's cords and jeans, J. Press flap-pocket ocbds, Screen Stars t-shirts, Bean and Orvis khakis, Co-Op-brand blucher mocs, and canvas tennis shoes by Sperry, N!ke, Etonic, Jack Purcell, and Tretorn.  I'd become able to tolerate the cold weather very well and was able to keep warm by adding either a Brooks v-neck sweater or subbing a Press Viyella with plain-collar and flap-pocket or a Brooksflannel shirt for the ocbds.

I retired my Norwegian sweater, which was probably the single most egregiously preppy item there was, in March 1980.

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#359 2017-03-16 12:00:36

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

*mic drop*

Stan, thanks a million for this... a really excellent write-up... Love seeing the balance of hardcore legacy prep, rugged prep, avoidance of pretension, and of course practicality... Ever thought of writing a book on this?

What I drooled over especially:

stanshall wrote:

a beautiful new tweed 3/2 sack sport coat with short center vent and two on the sleeve, from Press, in heather honey-brown herringbone with faint broken vertical tick stripes in green and blue,

they were actually from the Co-Op, a good $5 cheaper than Bean for the identical unbranded made-in-Maine real thing.  Things cost about $18.  Lasted 18 years, resoled them twice.     

Had a Viyella bathrobe and one in  seersucker too.

Brooks Brothers cream-colored terry longtail polo shirt from them, with no logo on it anywhere.

I've just been supplementing my Viyella supply on eBay... Looking for good cheaper polos as well, don't know if you have any recommendations... Bean sells longtail polos for about $30 but the color selection is pretty poor, even more so for a pocket polo...

I saw a pair of those Fred Perry kicks in a yearbook as well, didn't think to grab a screenshot of them though... Really appreciate all your memories of the colors (good and bad) as well... too few color photos kicking around...

I'd love to hear your tennis shorts solution someday... Of course there's been the opposite problem for many years now, it's hard to find shorts that don't hit too low, even on my long legs...

A++ again stan... like all your posts, this will be one I'll revisit many times... thanks again for taking the time!


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#360 2017-03-16 13:05:50

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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

That was an amazing write up Mr. Stanshall! Are you from Florida? I remember as a young lad going into a Burdine's department store when I visited my grandmother in the Miami area for socks and a bathing suit. 😊

 

#361 2017-03-16 13:05:54

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

https://s26.postimg.org/brk9z0txl/Screen_Shot_2017_03_15_at_23_47_56.png

had to save this one, classic shot ... but look at the other guy's polo shirt to get a glimpse of the downside of '70s style excess ......


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#362 2017-03-16 13:13:05

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Hahaha I couldn't pass up that Rod Laver shot even though I couldn't crop Mr. Seventies out of the background... believe me I tried...

Sad that they don't make Rod Lavers like they used to anymore... they're so heavy now...


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#363 2017-03-16 13:40:21

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Southpaw Grammer wrote:

That was an amazing write up Mr. Stanshall! Are you from Florida? I remember as a young lad going into a Burdine's department store when I visited my grandmother in the Miami area for socks and a bathing suit. 😊

I am a Florida native, Southpaw, thanks for your kind words, welcome to Talk Ivy, Burdine's did indeed have the amazing selection of bathing suits, as one would expect ... when I visited relatives in New York I'd always be given a scarf and a sweater from Brooks or Saks

Burdine's was great, we got some new clothes there every August, right before the beginning of the school year in early September .....

I never bought clothes of any kind as a kid, ever, although I do remember begging for sneakers, Rawlings gloves, Wilson footballs, nice racquets ....

dudes it was great to graduate from Bancroft racquets as sold at Sears to Wilson Jack Kramers from the sporting goods stores .....

never did get the Rawlings glove when I was young, they had bad distribution in Florida, I wanted a Brooks Robinson so badly, settled for MacGregor and Wilson 

here are the things I liked best as a kid, circa 1969-75, the more sports-uniform looking the better for me back then, with some radical chic interludes:

Rawlings - baseball shirts, baseballs
Wilson - shorts, striped crew socks, racquets, footballs, basketballs
Adidas - sneakers, tees, shorts, polos, jackets, bathing suits
Puma - sneakers, tees
Converse - sneakers, cleats, track shoes
Russell Athletic - sweatshirts and hoodies
Champion - hoodies, sweats, warm-ups
Screen Stars - tees
Duo-Fold - henleys, tees
Levi's - jeans, cords, chambray shirts, t-shirts, jackets
Lacoste - polo shirts, tees, shorts, bathing suits, jackets
Fred Perry - polos, shorts
Sears - jackets, windbreakers, outdoor clothes, green jeans, boots, wool overshirts
Pro-Keds - sneakers
Health-Knit - baseball shirts and Henleys
Hang-Ten - surf tees and crazy polo shirts
Clarks - desert boots and Treks
Woolrich - chambray shirts, flannel shirts, jackets, workshirts
Burlington - wool crew socks, tube socks, cotton socks
Wigwam - wool crew socks, tube socks, cotton socks
green fatigue army pants
terry cloth polo shirts and t-shirts
striped surf t-shirts with pockets, worn with green Sears camping jeans, and Pro-Keds with contrasting colored after-market laces

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#364 2017-03-17 02:31:01

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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

I'm loving these 80s shots, BB. Great stuff!

 

#365 2017-03-17 14:14:02

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Thanks Sidewinder... that's high praise from the Yearbook Master himself...

Believe me, I should get a medal for all the photos of terrible facial hair and giant collars I've had to wade through to get these pics wink

You can find Ivy at any damn school if you go back to 1959, 1960... but prep is a different story, and the really prep colleges don't just throw their yearbooks out onto the internet, although I will keep praying they do... Sewanee was a godsend, that's where most of these are from... but I do find the odd Norwegian sweater and tastefully worn puffer vest here and there... the well isn't dry just yet...


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#366 2017-03-17 16:19:43

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Late 70s/80s prep in the movies, part 2 (as I've covered "Risky Business" elsewhere I think, maybe I'll revisit more in-depth soon...)

Not going in the Ivy in the movies thread because it isn't really unexpected and fits better here in my opinion...

For now, the douchey college villain of "Breaking Away"...
https://s26.postimg.org/cli0iun49/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_17_40_35.png
https://s26.postimg.org/ksa0afd6x/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_17_41_31.png
https://s26.postimg.org/yzzoz2pvt/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_17_43_31.png

And of course Jake... not a fan of "Sixteen Candles" (Jughes is supposed to be the champion of the outsider... but Molly Ringwald just needs the validation of the Cool Boy and she can laugh at the girl in headgear just like the audience is supposed to...) but they got Jake right imo...
https://s26.postimg.org/5m3yjhn61/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_04_15.png

Well, *almost* right...
https://s26.postimg.org/49quvcf49/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_05_00.png

https://s26.postimg.org/mdtvfzcsp/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_09_02.png
https://s26.postimg.org/d7bksp7k9/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_09_31.png
https://s26.postimg.org/533gnyl55/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_09_43.png

These pants are hideous but I'm overlooking them in the interests of charity...
https://s26.postimg.org/bw3tk8byh/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_10_12.png

Even Paul Dooley (also the dad in "Breaking Away") gets in on the action...
https://s26.postimg.org/bi2hkmrux/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_09_58.png

Douchey college villain from "Breaking Away"... is that you?!
https://s26.postimg.org/luos6ple1/Screen_Shot_2017_03_17_at_18_10_20.png

Breaking Away: B+
Good representation of prep style in Bloomington, IN, not exactly an Ivy/prep hotbed... Accurately limited prep style in evidence

Sixteen Candles: B
More prep style than "Breaking Away" but gets a lower grade because of the boots and those hideous pants... Jake is a blueblood, it's a classic rich kid gives a party when his parents are gone scenario, they have a Porsche and a freakin' Rolls Royce... Tom Cruise is essentially the same character in "Risky Business" which was from a year earlier in '83 and he totally nails the look, so Jake has no excuse

I'll save "Risky Business" for another time, probably going to hit some others before I come back to that old favorite...


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#367 2017-04-02 21:42:08

stanshall
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From: Gilligan's Island
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

unspoken but true, the dirty little secret of '70s prep ... Levi's 517 boot jeans and corduroys ... irreconcilable with Ivy but part of '70s prep and worn by the iconic JFK, Jr. and plenty of others, even though many won't admit it .....

517s, 519s and 505s were all worn in the summer of '76  ... '75 too ... seen with Top-Siders, Adidas, Wallabees .... but when the flares became more disco than Dead the preps dropped them hard and pretended they'd never had them at all .... punk straightened the trousers out too ... took a full twenty years before the 517s made a hipster-driven comeback ....   

shitkickers always wore boot jeans, though ....


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#368 2017-04-03 13:26:59

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

the guys on the left and in the center of this photo ... that was what I got up to, no weird exaggerations, three pieces of basic clothing from three shops located two blocks from each other ... it was convenient to get the stuff right there where you were stuck anyhow .... 

... the guy on the right's sweater is not cutting it one bit though, he needed a Shaggy Dog y'all .....

http://s26.postimg.org/h44izesg9/Screen_Shot_2017-03-14_at_19.44.06.png


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#369 2017-04-03 20:58:44

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

stanshall wrote:

... the guy on the right's sweater is not cutting it one bit though, he needed a Shaggy Dog y'all .....

It looks like a fleece snap-t, actually...


Trust but verify

 

#370 2017-04-03 23:34:09

stanshall
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From: Gilligan's Island
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

stanshall wrote:

... the guy on the right's sweater is not cutting it one bit though, he needed a Shaggy Dog y'all .....

It looks like a fleece snap-t, actually...

I do like the fleece snap-t generally ... .  anyway, I've been looking at the last big batch of pics you posted, they're amazing .....

here's another kid I relate to, again, he reminds me of myself except I only turn up my cuffs once, this kid's opted for the double turn-up ... but still, I have a J. Press flannel shirt just like the one in the pic, I still wear stuff like this all the time, I guess all of us on this thread do, it's Ivy with Adidas, that's '70s prep in a nutshell: looser Ivy, plus lots of Adidas, Top-Siders, 60/40, and down. 

http://s26.postimg.org/s2fshlh1l/Screen_Shot_2017-03-14_at_18.01.51.png


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#371 2017-04-04 08:06:11

alkydrinker
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

Lurker here with a couple comments. I recognize the blurry logo on that fleece snap T in the photo above. Growing up in Albany, NY in the early 90s, that logo was highly regarded in my school. It is a ski gear brand, "CB". Here is a clearer example:

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x387/Tim_Frye/CB_zpsszjees8i.jpg

I got curious if the brand was still around, and it is but the brand has been recently "relaunched" so I'm not sure if it resembles it's old self anymore.
http://www.cbsports.com

Here is the brand's backstory:
"The story of a ski legend that changed the outerwear industry. Former world downhill record holder, CB Vaughan Jr., launched CB Sports apparel in 1969 and brought color to the mountain. The company reigned as one of Americasís leading ski apparel and outerwear brands for over 30 years.

The CB Sports brand was re-launched by Yellowstone Brands.

In 2010, Yellowstone Brands introduced new collections for men, women and children under the CB Sports label in  the following categories: outerwear, accessories, apparel and eyewear. Today, CB is for the sports enthusiast, while staying true to the brandís DNA. "


All that reminded me of another brand from my youth, actually a local brand, that falls into the 1970s/Heavy Duty category: Tough Traveler. Sure enough, they are still around making the same backpacks, hiking bags, etc, still manufacturing in New York state.

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x387/Tim_Frye/ToughTraveler_zpsqk6whl5o.jpg

Here is their website: http://www.toughtraveler.com

 

#372 2017-04-04 08:43:55

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

/\  nice detective work Alky, I sort of remember the CB brand ..... but I still think the kid in the pic would benefit from a Shetland sweater ....

back in the fall of '78 at my college, the bright colors and accents on that CB top would have signified "high school," same as a pair of Clarks  ....


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#373 2017-04-05 07:53:58

Chipper
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

I never thought of it as Ivy or prep back then, though. For me, it was just stuff you wore if you were a college kid. I thought of it as a college kid look, basically getting inspiration from what I saw kids around me wearing and the occasional piece in Esquire or wherever.

Yeah, Adidas was standard all through my college years. Flannel shirts with button down collars (I didn't own any J. Press -- mine were Arrow and Eagle, I think, from the menswear dept where I worked part-time). A couple Shetland crew necks, a tennis sweater, an argyle v-neck, an angora (!) cream-colored v-neck -- those were the sweaters that got me through 4-plus years of undergrad study and play. A Baracuta jacket for warm weather, an air force parka for winter. Bunch of 501s. Levi's 5-pocket cords, too, and I remember going back and forth between straight leg and a slight flare with those.

Oh, yeah, would switch up the Adidas with Chucks, especially in spring and summer. Also owned some kind of canvas boat shoes. No leather boat shoes during those years, though. A pair of Clarks desert boots.

For a short time, my look got a bit punk inspired. I started wearing an army trench coat and black Chucks in winter with torn-up jeans and old t-shirts. I outgrew that quickly.

stanshall wrote:

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

stanshall wrote:

... the guy on the right's sweater is not cutting it one bit though, he needed a Shaggy Dog y'all .....

It looks like a fleece snap-t, actually...

I do like the fleece snap-t generally ... .  anyway, I've been looking at the last big batch of pics you posted, they're amazing .....

here's another kid I relate to, again, he reminds me of myself except I only turn up my cuffs once, this kid's opted for the double turn-up ... but still, I have a J. Press flannel shirt just like the one in the pic, I still wear stuff like this all the time, I guess all of us on this thread do, it's Ivy with Adidas, that's '70s prep in a nutshell: looser Ivy, plus lots of Adidas, Top-Siders, 60/40, and down. 

http://s26.postimg.org/s2fshlh1l/Screen … .01.51.png

Last edited by Chipper (2017-04-05 07:58:58)


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#374 2017-04-05 11:06:55

stanshall
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From: Gilligan's Island
Posts: 10112

Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

/\  like the fact you admit to the occasional wearing of the "slight flares" (517s) ...

freshmen kids took flak for those, I specifically recall that one guy, came from NYC's top private school, got the nickname "Disco" because of his flares ....

... 517s were not very common, they were not prevalent, and they became notably less evident after '78, but in the interest of accuracy I felt they should be acknowledged at some point in this thread ......

I didn't have Clarks of any kind in college, they had the reputation of being high school shoes, but I did get a navy Baracuta from the Andover Shop in the fall of my first year of law school, outgrew it, gave it to my uncle, very nice light jacket ..... currently have a great Baracuta, but it's just the standard light beige .....


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#375 2017-04-12 20:50:01

stanshall
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Re: The Late 70s Prep Checklist

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