Last edited by Leer R. (2015-11-20 02:27:46)

Oh, yes. Original Khakis even had pleats! And weird waistbands Very un-Ivy

http://onlinemilitaria.net/products/4213-UK-Officer-Khaki-Drill-Trousers/?bc=no

Last edited by Leer R. (2015-11-20 00:48:48)

Last edited by Yuca (2015-11-20 01:10:32)

Only thing I'd change in Yuca's post is that Take Ivy was mid 60s being published in 1965

^^^ Really interesting, thanks AB. I assume that the word 'cack' derives from the same Persian term of khaki?

Further proof also that claims of 'authenticity' of a particular garment/cloth to a particular country/time is often a load of nonsense.

Last edited by colin (2015-11-20 03:20:13)

^^^ Very good!

Ill have a shit coloured pair ta..

It is all a matter of the back rise. 13" is necessary, when the back rise isn't high enough. I should measure my old cords at home and my LVC cords. Ah, and my Polo chinos. Those are perfect old fashion high rise but I doubt they are higher than 12,5. They are more 12" I suppose. But in the back they are so high that they look really high rise. 13" can become too high if the back rise is also really high. Nobody wants them REALLY below the nipples

If I am wrong I'll let you know.

Last edited by Leer R. (2015-11-20 05:40:09)

Last edited by The Woolster (2015-11-20 05:53:31)

Of course the back rise will be taken into account, as it's integral to the fit.  I think it's necessary that each pair comes with plenty of excess fabric for future expansion.  I also agree with you about the on-seam pockets being requisite.  Others seem to want the offset/angles pockets.  But I'm with Woolster in that these need to be legit natural waist trousers.  No messing about in that department.