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#1 2016-05-01 03:10:45

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"Typical" cashmere sweaters

Friends - where can I buy "typical"/"traditional" cashmere sweaters? The ones at N Peal are too fashion-forward (i.e. slim fit, non-traditional colours, tiny V necks, unusual styles). I am thinking along the lines of Peter Scott's collection ca. 1993.

So, traditional pastel colours, very soft grip, fuzzy surface. The tie-around-ones-neck kind of sweaters.

Berk online?

 

#2 2016-05-01 03:55:11

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Cuccinelli - too fashionable

Doriani?

 

#3 2016-05-01 03:56:18

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

"Berk online?"

^Who's that?


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#4 2016-05-01 03:56:23

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Loro Piana? Maybe.

Any more ideas?

 

#5 2016-05-01 06:10:48

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

4F Hepcat wrote:

"Berk online?"

^Who's that?

https://www.berkcashmere.co.uk/category … g&id=9

 

#6 2016-05-01 06:48:26

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Forget Berk. The company was sold and now just sells William Lockie at a premium price point. Check out Heather Wallace for Cashmere, it's Lockie's online shop. Don't ignore Italian cashmere, the designs are more fashion forward but the quality is definitely there. If you want the real thing, Charvet in Paris still has some old Ballantynes.

 

#7 2016-05-01 07:09:57

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Interesting - will be in Pari,s soon, and, check, it, out,

 

#8 2016-05-01 16:32:01

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Johnstons of Elgin is definitely good. Been waiting on a bright red cashmere crewneck and a burgundy lamswool v neck since last week.


Johnny's Lobbster wrote:

Forget Berk. The company was sold and now just sells William Lockie at a premium price point. Check out Heather Wallace for Cashmere, it's Lockie's online shop. Don't ignore Italian cashmere, the designs are more fashion forward but the quality is definitely there. If you want the real thing, Charvet in Paris still has some old Ballantynes.

Great post.

Would Paul & Shark cashmere be good also?

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#9 2016-05-01 20:57:05

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

The Tolaga Bay Cashmere company in New Zealand is supposed to be very good also.
http://cashmere.co.nz/


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#10 2016-05-01 22:31:50

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Paul & Shark - here it is a fashion brand for elderly men, with a lot of marine/nautical themed embroidery, not seen as particularly high end/sophisticated.

 

#11 2016-05-02 01:31:56

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Here's a nice looking jumper for you.
http://www.mytheresa.com/en-au/wetterho … vQodp3wCuQ


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#12 2016-05-02 03:02:26

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Some crazy prices for a pullovers!


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#13 2016-05-03 17:51:44

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Johnny's Lobbster wrote:

Forget Berk. The company was sold and now just sells William Lockie at a premium price point. Check out Heather Wallace for Cashmere, it's Lockie's online shop. Don't ignore Italian cashmere, the designs are more fashion forward but the quality is definitely there. If you want the real thing, Charvet in Paris still has some old Ballantynes.

This is what the owner of Berk cashmere told me:

We have spent there last 18 months working with the former production manager of Ballantyne to produce our Lorne and Pullman styles. Many of the knitters who made our sweater in Innerleithen are now employed making our sweaters.We use the same plain frame machines, yarn and washing process to produce our Scottish bare finish cashmere

Could this (below) be like the old Ballantyne?
https://www.berkcashmere.co.uk/product. … Neck+2+Ply

Note: the Innerleithen factory is where the original good Ballantyne knitwear used to be made according to my basic research.

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#14 2016-05-04 13:51:43

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Johnstone's of Elgin seconded.  I have a couple, one of which is >10 yrs old and going strong.

Brora also nice, though limited men's selection.

 

#15 2016-05-04 16:11:35

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

It also says so on their website. The old Ballantyne Mill was later renamed Caerlee mill, which closed down. Their buldings were demolished and all the old looms were destroyed. Compare the colour charts of Berk to those on the Heather Wallace website or on the A. Hume webstite, they're exactly the same. William Lockie's Melrose style is also the exact same as Berk's Lorne. I remember a post somewhere from a person from Innerleithen who talked about how the old intarsia jumpers were made and who wrote some things about the production there, I think he was open about people approaching him. The knowledge of the people certainly isn't lost, so maybe they approached the former staff. I don't want to talk them down but Lockie charges half of what Berk charge.

I think newer cashmere is unlike any old cashmere out there, both because of the quality of the yarns, back then the goats weren't shorn as frequently and only the best fibres were used, and the knitting. My grandmother still has some old Ballantyne and Pringle jumpers from 40 or more years ago. The quality is unlike anything I've seen in the last few years. Tightly knit, very thick and still keep their shape, more recent stuff doesn't come remotely close to it.

 

#16 2016-05-04 16:29:38

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

I recently got these Johnstons lambswool and cashmere after being lost in postage for quite some time.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron%208/678c5987-6b56-4fa2-a228-acb27195dbf6_zpsklfekff7.jpg

I have also hunted down one of the only Tolaga Bay cashmere sweaters to exist for men in Oz and will be picking this up soon hopefully - in navy blue:
http://cashmere.co.nz/products/placard-collar-sweater

I am also thinking of getting some Berk cashmere for another day. This is why:
https://www.berkcashmere.co.uk/category … &id=65

I also em,ailed Charvet in France to see if they have some of the old Ballantynes left. Haven't heard back from them.

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#17 2016-05-05 00:31:34

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Johnny's Lobbster wrote:

I think newer cashmere is unlike any old cashmere out there, both because of the quality of the yarns, back then the goats weren't shorn as frequently and only the best fibres were used, and the knitting. My grandmother still has some old Ballantyne and Pringle jumpers from 40 or more years ago. The quality is unlike anything I've seen in the last few years. Tightly knit, very thick and still keep their shape, more recent stuff doesn't come remotely close to it.

The Pringle jumpers from the early to mid-80s were good quality as I remember. You could get the plain V-necks and tank tops for between 18-24 quid and then the better argyle ones broke the GBP30 barrier. The last time I bought really good jumpers, from a cost perspective, they wore through, got stretched and succumbed to moth attack just the same as cheap variety. I bought some M&S ones, including cashmere ones from their store near Cheshire Oaks in Ellesmere Port last time I was up there. Most of them turned out to be pretty naff, but the black V-neck cashmere one has turned out to be a winner. But in saying that, the last two winters here have been mild from a temperature point of view, combined with over heated cars, trams, homes and places of work, I don't really have much need for jumpers these days.


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#18 2016-05-05 03:49:41

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

I second Hepcat's view on 1980s Pringle jumpers.

I had 3 merino wool ones which lasted a lifetime.

 

#19 2016-05-05 03:52:30

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Thanks for the Johnstons idea, Shoey.

 

#20 2016-05-15 01:07:23

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Re JoE: I had a look at their website; which of the sweaters are slim fit and which are not?

Maybe someone of you has also read that JoE opened a shop in Mayfair?

 

#21 2016-05-15 10:52:48

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Shooey could you pls ID the two jumpers?

The_Shooman wrote:

I recently got these Johnstons lambswool and cashmere after being lost in postage for quite some time.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … fekff7.jpg

I have also hunted down one of the only Tolaga Bay cashmere sweaters to exist for men in Oz and will be picking this up soon hopefully - in navy blue:
http://cashmere.co.nz/products/placard-collar-sweater

I am also thinking of getting some Berk cashmere for another day. This is why:
https://www.berkcashmere.co.uk/category … &id=65

I also em,ailed Charvet in France to see if they have some of the old Ballantynes left. Haven't heard back from them.

 

#22 2016-05-15 11:11:08

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Just read that JoE call it "saddle shoulder" ,

 

#23 2016-05-25 23:49:47

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

New Zealand Possum Merino, the warmest knitwear in the world
http://snugnz.com/pages/new-zealand-pos … -the-world


Also sells cashmere clothing etc.


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#24 2016-08-07 10:03:26

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Need to stock up but at the moment they dont have pastels.

 

#25 2016-10-05 16:24:59

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Re: "Typical" cashmere sweaters

Simon Crompton reporting what Shooey posted some time ago. It still surprises me that the colour chart is the same as William Lockie's and that the models look exactly the same.

https://www.permanentstyle.com/2016/10/ … -ever.html

 

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