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#1 2016-12-30 01:44:55

Beestonplace
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Tassels and whimsical ties

Tassel loafers and Hermes ties with little animals - a relict of the 1980ies?

Discuss!

Oh, and while we are at it - Fairisle sweaters - do they only look good on skinny hipster types and / or grumpy white haired Bill Bryson / Theodore Bikel men, while they make middle aged out of shape men look even more middle aged and out of shape?

 

#2 2016-12-30 02:54:59

4F Hepcat
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

This is good on Macca:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYstxLoOnYA

Tempted, but they really are a Chrimbo affectation, or something I imagine ski bores wear après ski.

Tassel loafers was a big fan back in the day when Weller and Talbot were sporting them on the videos of Our Favourite Shop. Very 80s vibe to me, haven't worn them since.


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#3 2016-12-30 03:28:55

woofboxer
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Fairisle sweaters: I tried on a couple in Drakes when my wife's need to buy me a Christmas present became desperate, but they just don't do it for me. For one thing, as has been pointed out, they are not particularly flattering if you are carrying a few pounds. They're just too jolly and redolent of Christmas which I dislike at the best of times, they're best left to the 'country in the city' types and old blokes who just don't care anymore.

Tassel loafers: I guess they have a certain skinhead/mod baggage in the UK, but I'm a big fan and often wear them in the summer. The reason being that I like them and that very few men here wear them. They are an affectation pure and simple, but a very low key affectation. As such they would never be worn by the great majority of men who have no interest in style, the sort of men who allow their wives to buy clothes for them unsupervised, the sort of men with whom I want clear blue sartorial water between me and them. Tassel loafers make this crowd feel slightly uncomfortable. Providing they are not worn as part of some sort of reenactors outfit, tassel loafers immediately mark you out as someone who takes an interest in what they wear. I have about four pairs.


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#4 2016-12-30 03:31:30

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Interesting.

At some time, I woulc say late 1980ies/early 1990ies, tassel loafers (the cheap kind) were clearly a mark of the nerd (in a bad way) in our country.

FI-sweaters: ditto. They make me look old, also in a bad way.

I can see FI sweaters on people with cropped hair/thick horn rimmed glasses, dark blue denim and cordo boots. But that is definitely not my style.

Best XX

 

#5 2016-12-30 03:47:43

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

4F Hepcat wrote:

Tempted, but they really are a Chrimbo affectation, or something I imagine ski bores wear après ski.
.

Knitwear does not get a look in nowadays for skiers. It is all 'technical' garments i.e overpriced stuff and fleeces. Peruvian hats in a fair isle pattern is as close as it gets.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#6 2016-12-30 03:52:09

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Yes, but all this oh-its-1964-again-and-I-wish-I-was-Gunter-Sachs-or-the-Duke-of-Windsor thing is awful. Yes, you can ski on wooden skiers and wear a FI sweater. The alpine equivalent of a single speed bike hipster.

Full disclosure: I have never skied, but enjoy sun in the snow as a spectator.

 

#7 2016-12-30 06:46:40

doghouse
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Tassel loafers are basically de riguer here. You look more out of place not wearing them.


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#8 2016-12-30 08:39:28

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Beestonplace wrote:

Yes, but all this oh-its-1964-again-and-I-wish-I-was-Gunter-Sachs-or-the-Duke-of-Windsor thing is awful. Yes, you can ski on wooden skiers and wear a FI sweater. The alpine equivalent of a single speed bike hipster.

Full disclosure: I have never skied, but enjoy sun in the snow as a spectator.

Telemark skiing is as close as it gets to hipsters. Make it more difficult by genuflecting to turn. For the truly jaded. Still wear modern kit though. Nearest to tweed run cyclist is the of occasional reenactor on high days and holidays.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#9 2016-12-30 09:25:03

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

tassel loafers: Brooks Brothers cordovan made by Alden: the lawyer's shoe of the '80s, a guilty pleasure, I have a pair in storage and will try to remember to retrieve them because they were comfortable

whimsical ties with little animals: woven emblematics from England as sold at J. Press for 60+ years, hell yeah (but never printed ones on very thin silk like the Hermes tie, those are horrible), I have a decent number of them and I wish I could use a couple more because currently Press have two superb ones that I really really want

Fair Isle sweaters: look great on Paul McCartney, Jimmy Page, random Deadheads outside the New Haven Coliseum, and preppy girls

Fair Isle ski caps with ear flaps and long strings: look great on members of Gong and the Steve Hillage Band as well as random Deadheads outside the New Haven Coliseum, preppy girls, and all hippies

hippies cannot survive winter without Fair Isle stuff

lawyers would never have survived the '80s without Alden tassel loafers

the Fair Isle sweater put the magic in the Magical Mystery Tour

currently I only have Fair Isle socks and one owd sweater which I'd love to break out if it ever got chilly here again on my island


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#10 2016-12-30 10:07:57

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Stansy, maybe FI in very small quantities works. The idea of FI socks - why not. And there is muted FI and crazy, look-at-me FI.

 

#11 2016-12-30 10:52:12

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

BBC did a documentary on Fair Isle. It is a tough life up there. The islanders usually have several jobs. The knitting is still going strong and they do reasonable business when a cruise ship turns up. BBC never showed the actual ship. I expect it is a smallish craft.
http://www.shetnews.co.uk/features/1365 … -fair-isle


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#12 2016-12-30 11:33:06

stanshall
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

/\  agreed ... my Fair Isle sweater is laid-back .... I'm glad I have it, bought it in '82 ... Back Bay bounty .... very cold winters there then .... now it's an artifact but I don't like to throw stuff out ... the 35-year-old Fair Isle sweater and emblematic ties stay ... I have given away a pair of outgrown Alden tassel loafers though which was a shame/good deed because they were in good shape ....


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#13 2016-12-30 12:05:59

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

The world moves on....

 

#14 2016-12-30 13:01:44

stanshall
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

/\  sic transit gloria billy mundi ...


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#15 2016-12-30 13:44:33

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Thank god. I am trying to think less about the past than I used to. Unfortunately sounds, musics, smells easily trigger not only single memories, but complete episodes. Drinking makes it worse, even moderately.

 

#16 2017-01-01 21:25:32

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

2 J. Press Fair Isle. Cardigan, V-neck. 2 Alden tassel. 1 Tan. 1 Burgundy.

 

#17 2017-01-01 23:59:00

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

So you are trying to tell us what excactly?

 

#18 2017-01-02 08:35:19

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Beestonplace wrote:

Thank god. I am trying to think less about the past than I used to. Unfortunately sounds, musics, smells easily trigger not only single memories, but complete episodes. Drinking makes it worse, even moderately.

Strangely, or not, as I've got older my episodes of nostalgia have gotten less to the point I've no aching for the past at all.


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#19 2017-01-02 11:56:40

woofboxer
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Beestonplace wrote:

So you are trying to tell us what excactly?

Well obviously that he owns


johndnorth wrote:

2 J. Press Fair Isle. Cardigan, V-neck. 2 Alden tassel. 1 Tan. 1 Burgundy.

Get with the program Beeston.


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#20 2017-01-03 00:59:29

4F Hepcat
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Thinking about it, a whimsical tie with a V-neck might just be the ticket.

I have this J.Press tie which is a background of white and then has some Tiki dancing stuff going in various shades of garish orange. I'm thinking with a white shirt and navy or black V-neck could go down a treat.


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#21 2017-01-03 03:07:09

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Black V-Neck? No, just no.

 

#22 2017-01-03 17:24:07

Chévere
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Shit I own:
Black V-Neck sweater vest- check
Tassel loafers (Brown suede and Black calf)-check
Fair isle grayish vest-check

Have not used the Fair isle in a while, but thanks for the reminder will dig it out presto.


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#23 2017-01-05 14:25:19

TakasakiJeff
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

I have one of those ties (small lizards in my case) and actually quite like it now and then.  But I don't keep a collection.

There is a shop in the City that sells rip-offs of the Hermes ones under their own brand, apparently made in the UK, for about £60 with more nautical type patterns (fish, sea horses and so on) in vaguely washed-out colours.  I am trying to avoid walking past it too often.

 

#24 2017-01-06 02:36:06

4F Hepcat
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

TakasakiJeff wrote:

There is a shop in the City that sells rip-offs of the Hermes ones under their own brand, apparently made in the UK, for about £60 with more nautical type patterns (fish, sea horses and so on) in vaguely washed-out colours.  I am trying to avoid walking past it too often.

The King's tailor here has them and you would be hard to tell the difference between a genuine Hermes and these. They're not like cheap Rolex fakes, these are very much the real deal. And at between €70-85 makes more financial sense than Hermes.


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#25 2017-01-06 06:49:40

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Cool! I want one!

I also think we should also frequent a rip-off of FNB forum,

 

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