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#26 2017-01-06 11:41:31

TakasakiJeff
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

4F Hepcat wrote:

TakasakiJeff wrote:

There is a shop in the City that sells rip-offs of the Hermes ones under their own brand, apparently made in the UK, for about £60 with more nautical type patterns (fish, sea horses and so on) in vaguely washed-out colours.  I am trying to avoid walking past it too often.

The King's tailor here has them and you would be hard to tell the difference between a genuine Hermes and these. They're not like cheap Rolex fakes, these are very much the real deal. And at between €70-85 makes more financial sense than Hermes.

You have weakened my resolve.  Might pop in for a seahorse model next week!

 

#27 2017-01-06 23:06:39

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Any idea where to buy knock off Aldens?

 

#28 2017-01-07 09:40:08

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Beestonplace wrote:

I also think we should also frequent a rip-off of FNB forum,

Surely not that den of inequity: Dressedwell.net?


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#29 2017-01-07 16:31:07

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Tassels sometimes. Yeah!

Ties are whimsical enough since I never really need to wear one.  So not that type of guy.  Not into novelty ties.  I enjoy them on others.


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#30 2017-01-08 01:20:33

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

I can see how whimsical ties as a regular motif, at irregular intervals, would work. That BBC newsreader had a decent shark one on the night of Brexit. But the whimsy would decrease the more you wear them, so the same whimsy would have a very little lifespan. Every week with the same tie and you would soon be seen as affected individual. Probably all the more reason why the skilful use of whimsical ties is worth purposing, if you can do it, your in the A-Team.


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#31 2017-01-08 01:24:04

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Beestonplace wrote:

Any idea where to buy knock off Aldens?

I know where you're coming from, but a tie, is a tie, is a tie. It's not hewn out of 309 steel with complex calibrations and the price tag of a small new car. So yes, I have no problem with a legitimate enterprise that has ties that look and are of same quality as Hermes for a third of the price. I wouldn't buy shoes that were fakes though, not that I've ever seen any, but I did have a pair of No spam! trainers once that fell off the back of lorry. As did every other person wandering around Liverpool at the time.


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#32 2017-01-08 03:10:12

Beestonplace
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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

You are right. I hope that TM Lewin will eventually offer button cuff shirts with three buttons. I mean - TML is a legitimate company, with a long history as shirtmakers. And in the end, its just a shirt - cotton, thread, buttons.

 

#33 2017-01-09 17:29:20

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Polka Dot is the politically correct whimsy tie. Outré degree proportional to diameter.


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#34 2017-01-22 09:35:18

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

I was in the King's tailor on Friday and the owner was in and I had a chat and he was most pleased with a new tie he had in which had tigers, lions and five hunting animals on. When he realised I wasn't a hunting man, he said it was also for conservation too!


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#35 2017-01-22 10:53:29

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

James Laver wrote that he thought tie color vibrancy and pattern whimsy was a sign of male vigor with the brighter, stronger colors and more openly set, whimsical patterns betraying a more youthful and virile man. Not dissimilar to the way blonde women are preferred because it is thought the skin associated with blondes is more vascular and thus more accurately portrays the subcutaneous  health of the female.

Tight patterns and closed patterns are more controlled and it is interesting when after selling his Duchamp label Mitchel Jacobs new Penrose ties were differentiated by making the designs more ordered and serious. Thus they were more in step with the Germanic sense of style  than with the UK one.


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#36 2017-01-22 11:38:20

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

Film Noir Buff wrote:

James Laver wrote that he thought tie color vibrancy and pattern whimsy was a sign of male vigor with the brighter, stronger colors and more openly set, whimsical patterns betraying a more youthful and virile man.

Valid, for his time and culture no doubt. You can achieve similar signs of virility through shirts, jackets and perhaps, if you like red pants, in trousers. But whimsical ties now, are particularly whimsical and whimsy can be overdone and cannot survive being brought into the day-to-day. Without rarity, whimsy is just garishness. No one sports whimsy ties everyday now do they?

Laver's Law is still valid.


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#37 2017-01-22 12:40:42

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Re: Tassels and whimsical ties

4F Hepcat wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

James Laver wrote that he thought tie color vibrancy and pattern whimsy was a sign of male vigor with the brighter, stronger colors and more openly set, whimsical patterns betraying a more youthful and virile man.

Valid, for his time and culture no doubt. You can achieve similar signs of virility through shirts, jackets and perhaps, if you like red pants, in trousers. But whimsical ties now, are particularly whimsical and whimsy can be overdone and cannot survive being brought into the day-to-day. Without rarity, whimsy is just garishness. No one sports whimsy ties everyday now do they?

Laver's Law is still valid.

Laver's culture was UK culture which is the culture that has basically set the tone for business clothes everywhere since perhaps Brummell.


I hadnt thought that through, certainly an interesting counter postulation. Not sure that these other items fall under the category of overt phallic symbols but I see your point. However, the current mode of dress seems to have been to destroy a code and reinterpret it as personal expression as a means of self identity and control over a much too quickly globalizing day to day and perhaps not necessarily a sign of virility. I liken it more to turn of the century Hip Hop culture's desire to wear different and even unknown throwback Skid marked underpants as a sign of individuality without regard to the inherent beauty of the article worn.

Years ago, I saw a man who looked like the twin of Benny Hill's Jackie Wright wearing a fuchsia cashmere overcoat. I dont know if it recaptured any boyish virility but in some ways he was ahead of his time in terms of self expression.


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