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#1 2017-05-05 06:49:45

Ian Lawton
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Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

I have been talking lately about the gap between what you might want and what you might get from an ivy point of view these days. I've certainly got a hit list or a "grail" list call it what you like. Anybody else the same? I want a Hopsack jacket. A really Ivy fabric. But I want it with certain very specific Ivy details. Hopsack is Ivy as can be. Where is my dream jacket?

 

#2 2017-05-05 08:26:42

An Unseen Scene
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From: Nottingham, UK
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Order from USA - O'Connells for example or accept that some RL, H&J, Keydge etc or MTM is way to go in UK.  I may be wrong but recall H&J doing such a jacket as you describe, which can be seen here or at their FB page and from your other post, you probably already know that.  Hope you eventually fulfill your dream!

 

#3 2017-05-05 11:26:50

GeorgieBoy
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

I'm after a corduroy suit.

 

#4 2017-05-05 12:25:29

Chipper
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From: Charm City
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

A good couple of pairs of white athletic socks with stripes.


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#5 2017-05-05 12:26:37

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Chip, check out Socco if you haven't already. They make a classic 70s athletic sock with red and blue stripes...


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#6 2017-05-05 13:45:24

Chipper
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From: Charm City
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Cool, thanks.


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#7 2017-05-05 16:51:51

SanchoPanza
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Speaking of OC, can anyone point me in the direction of some lighweight chinos? I have the plain front cotton twill trousers, but I'm pretty sure that they will be to warm to wear in the summer, so I'm looking for a lighter alternative. Does anyone have the OC poplin trousers?

 

#8 2017-05-05 17:28:09

Chipper
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

No, but some OC poplins are on my want list. I do have some OC gabardines that are very light and easy to wear in the summer.


SanchoPanza wrote:

Speaking of OC, can anyone point me in the direction of some lighweight chinos? I have the plain front cotton twill trousers, but I'm pretty sure that they will be to warm to wear in the summer, so I'm looking for a lighter alternative. Does anyone have the OC poplin trousers?


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#9 2017-05-05 18:11:38

Lautreamont
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Sancho—I'm a very long time lurker, but your question has pulled me out of the shadows. The OC poplins have far too much polyester in the blend, at least for my taste. On one hand, they're almost impossible to wrinkle, despite their lightness; on the other, they feel unnaturally stiff and they make an embarrassing nylon-like whiffing when you walk. Final flaw: they have ridiculously shallow pockets. If you're looking for lightweight, go with the OC dress cottons. They cost the same as the twills, but they're much more comfortable for summer.

 

#10 2017-05-05 18:19:12

Chipper
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From: Charm City
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

This is what I have: http://www.oconnellsclothing.com/O-Conn … Khaki.html


Dress cotton gabardine trousers, I guess is what they're officially called. They are indeed comfortable in warm temps.

Last edited by Chipper (2017-05-05 18:20:08)


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#11 2017-05-06 00:27:03

woofboxer
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From: Staines-upon-Thames, Middlesex
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Lautreamont wrote:

Sancho—I'm a very long time lurker, but your question has pulled me out of the shadows. The OC poplins have far too much polyester in the blend, at least for my taste. On one hand, they're almost impossible to wrinkle, despite their lightness; on the other, they feel unnaturally stiff and they make an embarrassing nylon-like whiffing when you walk. Final flaw: they have ridiculously shallow pockets. If you're looking for lightweight, go with the OC dress cottons. They cost the same as the twills, but they're much more comfortable for summer.

Lautreamont - glad you have emerged from your chrysalis at last - welcome friend!

I have a pair of these from the J Press line up:

http://www.jpressonline.com/poplin-plain-front-olive/

Although the cut and general look of them are quite nice I couldn't really recommend them for the same reasons as above. Its possible they come from the same manufacturer.


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#12 2017-05-06 06:08:24

stanshall
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Chipper wrote:

No, but some OC poplins are on my want list. I do have some OC gabardines that are very light and easy to wear in the summer.

SanchoPanza wrote:

Speaking of OC, can anyone point me in the direction of some lighweight chinos? I have the plain front cotton twill trousers, but I'm pretty sure that they will be to warm to wear in the summer, so I'm looking for a lighter alternative. Does anyone have the OC poplin trousers?

Chipper and Sancho, here's another point of view:  I do have a pair of O'Connell's poplins, 55% cotton/45% polyester, great pair of summer pants that I don't care about, and another pair of NOS 55/45 poplin from them from a few years ago, and the 55/45 and 50/50 cotton/polys are noticeably nicer than 65/35 ....

you will not get any fabric-rubbing sounds from the current 55% cotton/45% poly O'Connell's poplins, and for that matter I also have a pair of J. Press poplins in 65/35 from a few years ago and I have to say they work well, no noise, no complaint ....

but the poplins I use for occasions when I care less and I wear the cotton gabardines and khyber cloths when I care more, I use them for different purposes ....

plus I have some regular cotton twills, they are a bit hot for summer days but not for nights, for me  ...

anyway, I've had tons of cotton poplin blends from Brooks Brothers, J. Press, Andover, and O'Connell's over the years, suits, trousers, summer sport coats, and walk shorts, not to mention Dickies and Sta-Prest trousers, and I've never had a problem with any of them making noise or being too hot, and if you like Brooks Brothers khaki poplin wash'n'wear suits sack with patch pockets, you'll be fine with O'Connell's 55/45 cotton poplin blend summer trousers for kicking around ....

of course, as we know from Dickies and Sta-Prests, if a poplin seems stiff at first, you just wash it a few times and they soften up very nicely .....

because the point of poplin blends is their washability ... wash'n'wear


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#13 2017-05-08 02:30:14

SanchoPanza
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

stanshall wrote:

Chipper wrote:

No, but some OC poplins are on my want list. I do have some OC gabardines that are very light and easy to wear in the summer.

SanchoPanza wrote:

Speaking of OC, can anyone point me in the direction of some lighweight chinos? I have the plain front cotton twill trousers, but I'm pretty sure that they will be to warm to wear in the summer, so I'm looking for a lighter alternative. Does anyone have the OC poplin trousers?

Chipper and Sancho, here's another point of view:  I do have a pair of O'Connell's poplins, 55% cotton/45% polyester, great pair of summer pants that I don't care about, and another pair of NOS 55/45 poplin from them from a few years ago, and the 55/45 and 50/50 cotton/polys are noticeably nicer than 65/35 ....

you will not get any fabric-rubbing sounds from the current 55% cotton/45% poly O'Connell's poplins, and for that matter I also have a pair of J. Press poplins in 65/35 from a few years ago and I have to say they work well, no noise, no complaint ....

but the poplins I use for occasions when I care less and I wear the cotton gabardines and khyber cloths when I care more, I use them for different purposes ....

plus I have some regular cotton twills, they are a bit hot for summer days but not for nights, for me  ...

anyway, I've had tons of cotton poplin blends from Brooks Brothers, J. Press, Andover, and O'Connell's over the years, suits, trousers, summer sport coats, and walk shorts, not to mention Dickies and Sta-Prest trousers, and I've never had a problem with any of them making noise or being too hot, and if you like Brooks Brothers khaki poplin wash'n'wear suits sack with patch pockets, you'll be fine with O'Connell's 55/45 cotton poplin blend summer trousers for kicking around ....

of course, as we know from Dickies and Sta-Prests, if a poplin seems stiff at first, you just wash it a few times and they soften up very nicely .....
.
because the point of poplin blends is their washability ... wash'n'wear

Thanks for the answer stan! I plan to use them for more "dressier" occasions, so I might go with the gabardines

Last edited by SanchoPanza (2017-05-08 02:30:40)

 

#14 2017-05-08 03:50:16

Chipper
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From: Charm City
Posts: 1493

Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Let us know how those turn out for ya, Sancho.

Last edited by Chipper (2017-05-08 04:17:50)


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#15 2017-05-08 04:52:50

SanchoPanza
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

Will do!

 

#16 2017-05-08 06:15:40

farrago
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Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

To add to Stan's comments, I've always found the approx. 50/50 cotton/poly poplins to be quite acceptable. 65% poly is too high.
As for poplins, I wear Bill's. They too make a sound when I walk. I've always assumed that it was due to the nature of the fabric.
Tan poplin trousers can pair well with a lightweight navy blazer on the hottest of summer days. OC's has lightweight dress options in a few $$$ choices.
Until then, let's hope your local noise ordinances don't start to regulate noisy fabrics and clothes.

Last edited by farrago (2017-05-08 06:18:48)

 

#17 2017-05-08 07:27:40

Ian Lawton
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Posts: 25

Re: Dreeeeam, dream, dream, dream

An Unseen Scene wrote:

Order from USA - O'Connells for example or accept that some RL, H&J, Keydge etc or MTM is way to go in UK.  I may be wrong but recall H&J doing such a jacket as you describe, which can be seen here or at their FB page and from your other post, you probably already know that.  Hope you eventually fulfill your dream!

I'm loving what HJ do.

 

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