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#1 2017-05-06 05:49:07

woofboxer
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From: Staines-upon-Thames, Middlesex
Posts: 5943

Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I mean it is boring isn't it?

I was led there from the Weejun blog, which used to be one of the best out there, sadly he hasn't updated it in a long time declaring that 'Instagram is where it's at now'.

My interest in Instagram lasted about a month, from the ivy perspective it just seems like a contest as to who can post the biggest quantity of old pictures, record covers and things otherwise deemed to be cool. Nothing wrong with posting those things, a lot of that sort of stuff is posted on here, but apart from the banal 'liking' of peoples pictures -where is the discussion, the informing, the witty repartee'?


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#2 2017-05-06 10:13:46

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I think the Instagram format has its place. But I do think that when something new comes up there is a rush to get onto it, and the balance is lost - in this case, a balance of quick-fix Ivy flotsam and jetsam (nothing at all wrong with that) and more in-depth thinking... with forums like TI sitting somewhere in the middle... I think that the more in-depth community will return in time, and the quick-fix side of things will calm down to normal levels... But I also think places like TI are vital to that happening by keeping the flame alive and having the ability to be on either side of the spectrum...


"Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other." - John F. Kennedy

"Always take your job seriously, never yourself." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

#3 2017-05-06 10:53:22

Chipper
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From: Charm City
Posts: 1527

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Instagram? That's, like, Tumblr, right?


"Duvel copied my homework." ~ Unknown
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#4 2017-05-06 13:15:53

Leer R.
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From: Vienna
Posts: 3252

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Chipper wrote:

Instagram? That's, like, Tumblr, right?

Haha! True. I prefer an old fashioned blog.


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#5 2017-05-08 07:48:39

Ian Lawton
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Posts: 27

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

To offer the "tutored" opinion of a Media student!!! Steer clear from all of this stuff. My debut here was in talking about media manipulation. Now deleted. On my course we are taught that everybody on the Internet is a troll. Point blank. But there is a question of degree.  Magpie the good, ignore the bad. Always question anybody with a thesis that they are so keen to promote. Actually don't even question them. Just magpie from whatever they come up with.  The idea that Ivy was nothing to do with advertising backed up with advertising copy to prove the antagonistic  poster's point has got me some nice high marks. What do I think? Judge the clothes and not the theories. God willing I have a career in Media ahead of me. And I start with the knowledge that all Media is bent. Things 'Trend' because vested interests want them to trend. Never willingly suspend your disbelief. Magpie!

 

#6 2017-05-08 10:52:07

stanshall
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From: Gilligan's Island
Posts: 10593

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Ian Lawton wrote:

.... On my course we are taught that everybody on the Internet is a troll. Point blank.

Hi Ian,

This forum has seen its share of trolls who don't really want to discuss clothing but rather want to promote themselves and the notion that they have a deep and possibly unique understanding of media and marketing and the nature of the internet, and we got bored with that after indulging it for a long time.  Your teacher's thesis that everyone on the internet is a troll to some degree is wrong, because that would mean that you are a troll to some degree, and that's not true, is it?  Anyway we hope not, because trolls are tiresome and it's tiring work deleting their posts, and nobody here wants to do that, fun as it can be, to a degree.

Very truly yours,

Not a troll


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#7 2017-05-08 14:00:42

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Ian Lawton wrote:

What do I think? Judge the clothes and not the theories.

...isn't your whole post the explanation of a theory? Check the log in your own eye, man... wink

Personally, I don't think some big faceless "media" is to blame for Instagram or Tumblr or anything else, and in fact I think that they aren't inherently bad things. Heck, blogging was seen as the demise of "real" writing, and then blogs became some of the best places for writing out there... I think it's a case of new technology somewhat outpacing our ability to moderate ourselves and figure out how to use it... Plus a love for trends and fads that is timeless and cyclical... I think everything will balance out in the end, Instagram and the rest will fill their role and things that seem neglected now will bounce back to fill theirs...

I actually do see an upside to someone moving to Tumblr (like Heavy Tweed Jacket) or Instagram (don't have one so I don't have example)... but as with HTJ (or the Trad though I don't know if he moved anywhere) if "real" blogging is too inconvenient, the blog is never updated... But I get HTJ updates on Tumblr all the time, great shots of his outfits and even some great nuggets from the past... So there's a net gain as far as I'm concerned


"Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other." - John F. Kennedy

"Always take your job seriously, never yourself." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

#8 2017-05-08 14:25:40

farrago
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From: Portlandia
Posts: 1039

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Tin Tin is on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/thetrad/

 

#9 2017-05-08 16:08:27

Berkeley_Breathes
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Posts: 837

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

farrago wrote:

Tin Tin is on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/thetrad/

Thanks farrago, I figured that's where he went to. That's one where I wish he was still blogging regularly...


"Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other." - John F. Kennedy

"Always take your job seriously, never yourself." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

#10 2017-05-08 18:47:05

Chipper
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From: Charm City
Posts: 1527

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I don't know. I'm convinced blogs, forums, instagram, tumblr is for folks what don't have much of a real life, inner or outer. There. I said it.

Electronic is not life.


"Duvel copied my homework." ~ Unknown
Back by popular demand, The Old Man and the Tweed. On tumblr.

 

#11 2017-05-09 08:54:39

Ian Lawton
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Posts: 27

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Both Berkley Breathes and Stanshall are of course right. I'm only relaying what is currently being taught. Do I believe my tutors? Do I parrot what they want to hear to get the marks I need? The answers are no and yes respectively.
The current Red Bull marketing (bluaaargh) campaign is a very nice case in point. They are the first to my knowledge to use the rejection of social media as a selling point and they do reflect a greater trend. What once had value is now devalued by over exposure. Tweeting & FB are by now too ubiquitous to have any merit. The one time bubble has burst.
Those with a wish to link this to the one time over expose of Ivy might also have a valid point.
Stanshall also makes a very valid and further point. The exercise of "being out there" on the internet is more often than not an exercise in self promotion if we are honest with ourselves. Some have products or advertising space to sell. Some have the desire to create a reputation.
My research into all of this online shows both sides. Some people are selling advertising space. Some people are selling themselves as arbiters of style.
I agree that Talk Ivy should be an "information exchange" and it is. But I also know that it was created as a cynical exercise to pick other people's brains to further the interests of one individual. That person is very frank about this. Shameless even.
Do I approve or disapprove? No and yes again. But I accept the nature of this medium.
Am I a troll? Just by voicing the issues above online possibly yes. Are our moderators trolls by calling me on it? Here we get the question of degree.
I suspect this discussion is probably over. Talk Ivy as an information exchange is my interest. Now my degree is towards its end and so my interest in the genesis of our discussions here is over. It's a great micro case study. But it has no impact on whether a jacket is good or bad.
I'm going to join Chipper and watch the show. But I'm not going to judge anybody. I'm just going to look out for all the gems that you unearth & try to add some of my own.
Here's to the information exchange!

 

#12 2017-05-09 13:31:50

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

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"Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other." - John F. Kennedy

"Always take your job seriously, never yourself." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

#13 2017-05-09 13:57:59

oxford cloth button down
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Posts: 1202

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Chipper wrote:

I don't know. I'm convinced blogs, forums, instagram, tumblr is for folks what don't have much of a real life, inner or outer. There. I said it.

Electronic is not life.

Just like newspapers, books, television, and movies. The internet is so 90's...

 

#14 2017-05-09 14:49:03

stanshall
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From: Gilligan's Island
Posts: 10593

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

/\  Ox you are a rock.


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#15 2017-05-10 09:26:23

ZarJazz
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Posts: 1316

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Instagram works as a creative index for me; I swipe and if I see something I like I investigate further.
I reckon if you're looking for discussion Woof, Instagram is not the place to be...

 

#16 2017-05-10 10:26:45

Chipper
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From: Charm City
Posts: 1527

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I overstate for effect, of course. I just think too much of our lives are spent online AND on television and with movies and in media in general.

For some, it becomes a substitute for real life. I know I've flirted with that dangerous drug.

And I do have my poisons, the stereo system being one. And anything in print (books, magazines, papers) seems extremely benign in the most subversive way.

oxford cloth button down wrote:

Chipper wrote:

I don't know. I'm convinced blogs, forums, instagram, tumblr is for folks what don't have much of a real life, inner or outer. There. I said it.

Electronic is not life.

Just like newspapers, books, television, and movies. The internet is so 90's...


"Duvel copied my homework." ~ Unknown
Back by popular demand, The Old Man and the Tweed. On tumblr.

 

#17 2017-05-10 10:34:27

GeorgieBoy
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Posts: 183

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Agreed. It's nice to look at for references too.
Generally find it a lot more positive than other social media that are just reduced to people moaning.

ZarJazz wrote:

Instagram works as a creative index for me; I swipe and if I see something I like I investigate further.
I reckon if you're looking for discussion Woof, Instagram is not the place to be...

 

#18 2017-05-10 10:55:20

IvyLeagueOfGentlemen
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From: Grace Brothers
Posts: 1170

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I thought Pinterest was the place to be these days?

I wish Mr Lawton would add a few spaces between sentences..... I lost my place twice, and went slightly boss eyed trying to read that last post.


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#19 2017-05-10 13:52:57

plastic palm tree
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From: Toronto
Posts: 138

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I like it for the Japanese Ivy guys' feeds.  You wouldn't find them on English-speaking forums and it gives you an insight into how big the style is over there.  I get the sense these guys see themselves as men's fashion #OOTD guys rather than Ivy cultists.

Last edited by plastic palm tree (2017-05-10 13:55:24)

 

#20 2017-08-08 08:24:06

Yuca
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Posts: 6849

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

I've finally joined Instagram. Now what? Please recommend me someone to follow.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#21 2017-08-08 10:01:59

An Unseen Scene
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From: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 497

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Instagram - been and gone

 

#22 2017-08-08 11:22:36

Yuca
Member
Posts: 6849

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

The natural shoulder look went out of fashion circa 67, and I only got into it less than a decade ago, so by my standards I'm doing well.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#23 2017-08-09 12:25:08

Yuca
Member
Posts: 6849

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

What about My Space? I might open an account next year.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#24 2017-08-09 15:22:25

Babbling Brooks
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Posts: 73

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Just found you on Friendster Yuca 👍

 

#25 2017-08-09 16:21:18

An Unseen Scene
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From: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 497

Re: Anyone else bored with Instagram yet?

Twitter. I am SquareEndKnuttedTie @an_unseen_scene

 

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