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#1 2017-06-26 01:44:32

SanchoPanza
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How ivy is a navy OCBD?

I can't recall ever seeing a picture of anyone wearing a navy OCBD, is/was it a rare color?

 

#2 2017-06-26 04:09:55

Pennies_and_Oxfords
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

There was only that Steve McQueen picture for reference, otherwise I don't ever recall seeing it. I actually want to know the answer to this too, because I got the Kamakura one and I'm not too sure how to wear it. Maybe with chinos and a seersucker jacket?


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#3 2017-06-26 04:54:29

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Haha, thinking of buying that one too. Which fit?

 

#4 2017-06-26 05:12:25

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

I wear a Tokyo Medium, and it fits well. It's got a bit of billow for me, though. Nothing a military tuck doesn't fix. I'd recommend it, though the only problem is (obviously) the 3-inch collar. But not like you'd wear a tie with it anyway.


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#5 2017-06-26 05:50:28

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Actually, the one on the HATIL book with McQueen is a black shirt, Graham altered it after the shot was scanned as it had a blue hue and he felt it looked better, also the reason why he did a navy version with Kamakura.


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#6 2017-06-26 09:12:18

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

I've got a couple of vintage navy shirts but they do seem to be a rarity.
Navy is listed as an option for their OCBD in a few old JPress catalogues/ads but I've never found one.


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#7 2017-06-26 10:30:25

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Tomiskinky wrote:

Actually, the one on the HATIL book with McQueen is a black shirt, Graham altered it after the shot was scanned as it had a blue hue and he felt it looked better, also the reason why he did a navy version with Kamakura.

I remember Acrilan Man's old post to that effect ......

navy blue long-sleeved buttoned shirts can look like work uniforms, which might help explain their relative rarity in the Ivy canon .....

regarding the matter of changing the color of McQueen's shirt from black to blue on the book cover, that was a disservice to history and an editorial misstep even if the blue shade did look better, which I don't doubt.  Still, in a book about a historical style the true color of the shirt in the photo shouldn't have been altered.


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#8 2017-06-26 15:59:09

katon
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

stanshall wrote:

navy blue long-sleeved buttoned shirts can look like work uniforms, which might help explain their relative rarity in the Ivy canon .....

http://i.imgur.com/3QcvM5t.jpg
That would be my guess as well. Definitely a funky chic vibe; maybe a navy shirt-jac?

Last edited by katon (2017-06-26 16:06:13)

 

#9 2017-06-27 03:42:55

Tomiskinky
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

I think it was more a case of enhancing the blue cast rather than totally changing the colour, but see your point Stan.


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#10 2017-06-27 13:19:43

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Saying that you don't see many black BD shirts either

 

#11 2017-06-27 13:56:13

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Now Tom has mentioned it, it is only a hint of Navy.


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#12 2017-06-28 02:56:17

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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

I would get a lot more miles out of a navy shirt rather than black, can't say a black shirt would work for me at all? Garçon....


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#13 2017-06-28 07:17:16

stanshall
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

/\  J. Press used to carry a great navy Viyella shirt, plain tennis collar and one flap pocket, I had one when I was in school, it was a staple of my winter wardrobe, truly loved it and it looked great .... wore the heck out of it ..... preferred it to the one in red, which I also had (see J. Press 1981 Fall/Winter catalog at #139)

currently have another lightweight wool/cotton long-sleeved sport shirt in navy that is similar but I don't get a chance to wear it, it hasn't been worn in years ....

also have had, and still have, buttondown pima broadcloth shirts from Andover and J. Press in tiny navy and white checks that look predominantly navy from a distance .....

and quite a few long-sleeved polo shirts in navy

all of those are/were sport shirts though ....

Bean has sold navy chamois shirts for years as well ...

in my mind's eye I can see various pop stars of the '60s in navy blue shirts but whether some of them were ocbds ain't exactly clear, for what it's worth .....

Stephen Stills, for example, is wearing what appears to be a navy chamois shirt on the cover of his first solo LP ......

a black ocbd is something untouchable for me but I could wear the right one in navy .....


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#14 2017-07-03 08:43:49

An Unseen Scene
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Flicking through Hollywood & The Ivy Look today has Paul Newman, Woody Allen and Ralph Bellamy all in navy button down shirts.

 

#15 2017-07-03 09:33:56

stanshall
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

Unseen, I don't have a copy of the book but is Woody's blue shirt actually navy blue?  looks a bit more deep royal in the pics I'm seeing on the net ....?

it would be good to see those pics of Woody and Paul here .....


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#16 2017-07-03 10:00:07

An Unseen Scene
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

The Woody pic is hard to tell, possibly more royal blue but definitely not sky blue.

The Paul Newman picture is in B&W so only the caption says it is a navy popover BD shirt.

There are loads of navy polos in there substituting for shirts too.

Personally I think a navy BD is a nice thing in a soft fabric.

 

#17 2017-07-03 10:32:32

stanshall
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

/\  I agree ... I'm a big fan of the navy blue polo shirt and as mentioned above one of my favorite shirts ever was a true navy blue J. Press Viyella shirt (albeit with plain collar) ....

I personally would love a navy ocbd in, as you suggest, a soft fabric .....


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#18 2017-07-03 11:53:55

An Unseen Scene
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Re: How ivy is a navy OCBD?

A button down polo shirt to me seems very wrong, just unnecessary whereas in a normal shirt I find it essential. Curious.

 

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