Tony Ventresca wrote:

Just because...
...she wiggles it soooo well.

It's nice to see a young woman select a career path early in life.  And when she turns pro she won't get splinters.

Last edited by Voltaire's Bastard (2008-04-01 11:47:33)

Just because...these two are HOT! (and he is a complete douchebag.)

Extreme antiquing.

Check out this little beauty. l saw it up the street and just couldn't resist taking a photo. l love the old beaten up American style cars with petrol staines down the side. lt is the perfect car. Bench seats, scares of battle. What a little beauty. l'd love to have an old bomb like that.



Check out the awesome staines down the side. Crikey! lt's awesome!!!


Almost a perfect park. No side mirrors either.









Car porn at its best!

Last edited by The_Shooman (2008-04-08 10:33:13)

Yeh, with a big nasty bubbling V8 under the hood...automotive perfection....there's no substitute for cubes...

The_Shooman wrote:

The old cars have LOTS of character. All the new cars look cold on the outside (they all look the same). The problem with old cars is that it is very difficult to get parts. Another problem with old cars is that they are not environmentally friendly.

lf l had my way, i'd get all the old bombs with petrol stains down the side. l love petrol guzzling yank tanks.

Give me an old 60's yank tank over a Ferrari anyday!


An old aussie FJ 40's Holden sold for over a million the other day. The EK, HG, EH, HK, EK and HG are legendary models.

All the Australian cars after 1974 look like a heap of modern shit. No character to speak of.

The 50's and 60's were a golden era for the US auto industry, there were some great designs coming out of Detroit, I think part of the problem now with the US auto makers is that they have forgot how to innovate, they seem to pander to the market research types.

The brilliant car designer Alec Issigonis who design the original Mini one quipped "The public don't know what they want; it's my job to tell them"...Every true product stylist in EVERY field should have that tattooed on their forehead so they can read it every morning in the mirror...

formby wrote:

The brilliant car designer Alec Issigonis who design the original Mini one quipped "The public don't know what they want; it's my job to tell them"...Every true product stylist in EVERY field should have that tattooed on their forehead so they can read it every morning in the mirror...

I can't agree. I think that sort of arrogance (prob. too strong a word) is what results in a lot of useless designs. Since designers don't in most cases use the products they design. Maybe Shooey's comment on natural talent is relevant since things should be designed by those who use them.

Shooey wrote:

Too much reliance on University types. Not enough reliance on natural talent. Nothing is classic anymore. Too much try-hard efforts trying to modernise things [too much].

...then you may enjoy reading about the Toyota Century.

Tony Ventresca wrote:

formby wrote:

The brilliant car designer Alec Issigonis who design the original Mini one quipped "The public don't know what they want; it's my job to tell them"...Every true product stylist in EVERY field should have that tattooed on their forehead so they can read it every morning in the mirror...

I can't agree. I think that sort of arrogance (prob. too strong a word) is what results in a lot of useless designs. Since designers don't in most cases use the products they design. Maybe Shooey's comment on natural talent is relevant since things should be designed by those who use them.

Shooey wrote:

Too much reliance on University types. Not enough reliance on natural talent. Nothing is classic anymore. Too much try-hard efforts trying to modernise things [too much].

...then you may enjoy reading about the Toyota Century.

Issigonis could certainly be arrogant. Issigonis was an uncompromising individualist, he was an independent thinker, who despised convention, and would not take advice gladly believing that what he designed was good enough for everybody.

Another quip..."a camel is a horse designed by committee."

I find the above statement to be quite profound and valid in more fields than just design...

Tony, I think that the auto industry is style led and not engineering led like for example aerospace is. People tend to pick a certain brand of car because they like the way it looks. It's a subjective choice not an objective one. How else could you explain the popularity of certain Italian brands. This is a problem Japanese auto makers have, whilst there cars are beautifully put together you could hardly say they're beautifully styled, most look blancmanges on wheels...

Last edited by formby (2008-04-08 12:05:47)

Tony Ventresca wrote:

formby wrote:

Issigonis could certainly be arrogant. Issigonis was an uncompromising individualist, he was an independent thinker, who despised convention, and would not take advice gladly believing that what he designed was good enough for everybody.

Another quip..."a camel is a horse designed by committee."

I find the above statement to be quite profound and valid in more fields than just design...

Ironcially, camels may look ungainly but are admirably adapted to their environments. I think functionality offers its own sort of beauty. However Issigonis was an example of how genius trumps all the rules.

Anyway Tony, do you drive a Toyota...?

I just like grand cars, with big grills, long hoods, and a trunk big enough for several dead enemies. .

That's the way. Big huge cars with a huge trunk and wide as trucks. + the old bench leather seats. Blokes that look extroadinarily tiny in reelly reeeeeelly big cars hehe.

l've loved HUGE yank tanks since l was a kid. The plainer the car, the better.

Last edited by The_Shooman (2008-04-08 12:11:43)

formby wrote:

'...I think functionality offers its own sort of beauty...'

I strongly agree with this...there is a certain elegance in simple functional design....

P.s I was editing my post when you responded to it...

Yes, your additional text is entirely correct in my opinion.

Shooey wrote:

l've loved HUGE yank tanks since l was a kid. The plainer the car, the better.

Here's an obsolete Chinese limo, for Party members only! ...the "Hongqi"

Voltaire's Bastard wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

l've loved HUGE yank tanks since l was a kid. The plainer the car, the better.

Here you go, Shooey, the Holy Grail of Yank Tanks, a '72 El Dorado with a 500 cu in V8:

http://www.calcruisingauctions.com/imag … conv-1.jpg

And it's a rag top, for cruising in the Aussie sunshine.  It's not too plain, but I think it's got "Shooman" written all over it.

Now that's a Pimpmobile...I also quite like the '66 Oldsmobile Toronado...which was quite innovative from an engineering perspective. On a different  note the Harley Earl designed Corvettes are stunning.

Last edited by formby (2008-04-08 16:05:15)

Voltaire's Bastard wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

l've loved HUGE yank tanks since l was a kid. The plainer the car, the better.

Here you go, Shooey, the Holy Grail of Yank Tanks, a '72 El Dorado with a 500 cu in V8:

http://www.calcruisingauctions.com/imag … conv-1.jpg

And it's a rag top, for cruising in the Aussie sunshine.  It's not too plain, but I think it's got "Shooman" written all over it.

Crikey Mr Bastard. That's a beauty mate!!!


Got any pics of even bigger yank tanks? You know, the reely reeely big ones. Huge monsters with huge grills and huge fins on the back....cars as wide as a house. You know the ones i'm talkin' about.

The big huge pick-up trucks are good too. The ones with benchseats driven by big strong men.

Last edited by The_Shooman (2008-04-09 08:11:07)

The_Shooman wrote:

The big huge pick-up trucks are good too. The ones with benchseats driven by big strong men.

Actually, those are all driven by poseurs. People with small penises, and the women who love them. They are also junk (1950s technology with 2000s bodywork). The look cool to foreigners who are used to small cars, but in reality a shitty little Korean economy car is more advanced than most SUVs and pickup trucks from North America.