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#1 2006-05-13 10:17:39
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Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
A couple of ads -- perhaps not too much should be read into them. But maybe we can discern something about these
two great icon's reaction to the fashion of the moment. Granted the two ads were placed in the New Yorker, and one
should consider that demographic when considering the larger context and meaning of the ad, but I won't put too much
analysis into them.
In '68 Brooks placed this ad. Perhaps they were, by emphasizing their English heritage, attempting to place a bulwark
against that horrendous second half of the decade?
Here's one from Chipp, also circa '68. Racoon coats as a nod to 20's Ivy League style? Or is it Pimp Trad? Or something else
entirely?
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#2 2006-05-13 10:32:52
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
I view the BB devotee as more monolithic in its style, the typical Chipp customer more individualistic. Chipp was like a small, wonderful club, perhaps "chipps" off the old BB block.
Marc
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#3 2006-05-14 11:23:03
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
Marc Grayson wrote:
I view the BB devotee as more monolithic in its style, the typical Chipp customer more individualistic. Chipp was like a small, wonderful club, perhaps "chipps" off the old BB block.
Marc
I didnt know Chipp went that far back. I do know that when i got dragged around by my dad on shopping trips to H. Herzfeld, Tripler, Paul Stuart, Wallachs and BBs and Seewaldt and Bauman I would live in dread that i would get dragged to that dingy backoffice of a shop. Like any good American, I hated those steps.
Anyway, my Dad would get a suit every now and then with the main attraction there being the crazy linings which were unavaialble anywhere else and were of course hidden so a lot of fun. He would also get jocks made up for tennis out of the polyester college tie materials they carried. Apparently, that was a big seller.
Also the furnishings which appeared to me to be so silly but contributed to my developing a tongue in cheek approach to style (Just as his buying ties and socks at Paul Stuart contributed to my developing a serendipitous element to my style). I always thought of Chipp as sort of Ivy League gone mad scientist.
Dad seemed to really enjoy those two Winston guys who were always joking in the Trad style which evokes images of antlered baseball caps and never ending variations on the fart joke. Dad could never tell a good scatalogical joke but stood in wonderment at those who had mastered its fine art.
Another attraction was the drop dead gorgeous African American girl they had working there which made my school boy fantasies chime.
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#4 2006-05-14 13:03:34
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
I really don't think Chipp and Brooks battled each other---Perhaps it was just a friendly rivalry. It was not merely coincidental that Chipp, Press, Brooks, Triplers, and Paul Stuart were all in close proximity to one another. Each store had their own nuanced differences, and their customers gravitated to those differences. It was rather glorious, a community of traditionalists all living side-by-side in Ivy League harmony.
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#5 2006-05-14 21:34:25
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
Horace wrote:
Here's one from Chipp, also circa '68. Racoon coats as a nod to 20's Ivy League style? Or is it Pimp Trad? Or something else
entirely?
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/85/c … s688xy.jpg
I would kick that, with a stick to walk.
#6 2006-05-15 09:02:54
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
Marc Grayson wrote:
I really don't think Chipp and Brooks battled each other---Perhaps it was just a friendly rivalry. It was not merely coincidental that Chipp, Press, Brooks, Triplers, and Paul Stuart were all in close proximity to one another. Each store had their own nuanced differences, and their customers gravitated to those differences. It was rather glorious, a community of traditionalists all living side-by-side in Ivy League harmony.
To suggest that the Brethren and Chipp were battling ea. other is an impression that I didn't mean to give. Merely, to consider the ways in which each _might've been_ responding to that sartorial period in time. E.g., that Brooks shores up the fragments of Trad ruin by emphasing their Enlgish roots. I mean, can anything be more anti-68 than a Lock hat and English cap-toe? Perhaps to rethink my interpretative strategy, I should.
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#7 2006-05-15 09:04:05
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Re: Chipp and Brooks battle the late 60's
Vaclav wrote:
Horace wrote:
Here's one from Chipp, also circa '68. Racoon coats as a nod to 20's Ivy League style? Or is it Pimp Trad? Or something else
entirely?
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/85/c … s688xy.jpgI would kick that, with a stick to walk.
Fo' shizzle. Maybe also with Jams. Kicking them out, MC5 style.
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