^ An example on which I, for one, ought to reflect.

Russell_Street wrote:

tripchauncey wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

Wonder who makes these inexpensive lumps of leather?

http://www.shiptonandheneage.co.uk/erol.html#2090X583

Are they Loakes?

http://www.pediwear.com/detail.php?stock_ID=1057

????

Thanks -

Chum,

Same shoo perchance?

http://www.jpressonline.com/accessories … l.php?ix=6

Hmmmmm -

Nice Shoe whatever. Loake is maybe a bit too entry level for Press? Dunno.

Tony - I think whatever your nationality you either have a shoe fetish or you don't. Most Europeans do indeed walk more than most Americans. It's a car thing I think. Or that distances are greater in the great big spread out US. Not sure.
My father lived in Churchs and indeed was buried in a pair. He just wore them, had them repaired as & when, & then threw them away without a backward glance. They aren't meant to last. Trickers he treated with more respect for some reason.

It's also worthy of mention that he found anything overly expensive quite literally obscene.
Things should be well made & good for their price. Nothing more. To spend a large amount of good money (always "good money" to him) on a pair of shoes would have been something which he would have found disgusting. The act of a willful degenerate like my beloved Uncle George.
Cordo Aldens may last & last but the initial outlay on them would have been against my father's every principle.

"Very showy" he'd have sniffed, refering to the action of buying them in the first place not to the appearance of the shoes.
He equally lived modestly in every other respect. His T&A shirts were always bought in the January sales and he always used country tailors over London ones on the few occasions he had something made to measure. Usually he would buy good quality RTW in the sales and have it altered to fit.

Very Trad you might think. And "Don't be so bloody stupid" would have been his relpy.

J.


J.

An eminently sensible position, surely, and one my own father (child of the Depression as he remains) would certainly espouse. One quibble -- Aldens hardly appear "showy", at least to my eye, so you'd have to be making an ass of yourself by telling people what make your shoes were, and how much they cost, for anybody to notice. I hope this never actually happens in meatspace, though I have discovered it to be an ugly recurrence on "the interwebs" ...

eg wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

Tony - I think whatever your nationality you either have a shoe fetish or you don't. Most Europeans do indeed walk more than most Americans. It's a car thing I think. Or that distances are greater in the great big spread out US. Not sure.
My father lived in Churchs and indeed was buried in a pair. He just wore them, had them repaired as & when, & then threw them away without a backward glance. They aren't meant to last. Trickers he treated with more respect for some reason.

It's also worthy of mention that he found anything overly expensive quite literally obscene.
Things should be well made & good for their price. Nothing more. To spend a large amount of good money (always "good money" to him) on a pair of shoes would have been something which he would have found disgusting. The act of a willful degenerate like my beloved Uncle George.
Cordo Aldens may last & last but the initial outlay on them would have been against my father's every principle.

"Very showy" he'd have sniffed, refering to the action of buying them in the first place not to the appearance of the shoes.
He equally lived modestly in every other respect. His T&A shirts were always bought in the January sales and he always used country tailors over London ones on the few occasions he had something made to measure. Usually he would buy good quality RTW in the sales and have it altered to fit.

Very Trad you might think. And "Don't be so bloody stupid" would have been his relpy.

J.


J.

An eminently sensible position, surely, and one my own father (child of the Depression as he remains) would certainly espouse. One quibble -- Aldens hardly appear "showy", at least to my eye, so you'd have to be making an ass of yourself by telling people what make your shoes were, and how much they cost, for anybody to notice. I hope this never actually happens in meatspace, though I have discovered it to be an ugly recurrence on "the interwebs" ...

I guess it's where you see the value proposition. My dad (a young man in the 30's)was of the mindset "buy good quality stuff and take care of it; it's cheaper in the long run. " Actually it's nice wearing (at least what's described on the interweb) as boring, blobby clunkers. As part of an outfit, they dont do the "look at me" thing that some other brands do. While I haven't really done a cost analysis, anecdotally I think it's cheaper (mebbe) to keep getting them resoled than buying more pairs of disposable shoes. It certainly is more satisfying philosophically.

I can see that folks have different "set points" regarding value (inital cost v. longevity). To some "internet Gentlemen" Alden cordos are a low grade machine made shoe, to others they're overpriced for what they are. Just like I can't see the value in EG's or Lattanzi's or Santoni's, others can't see the value in Aldens. And that's okay.

I remember getting Church's as my first pair of "good" shoes. black captoes IIRC. I thought I was really the nuts wearing them to work. There was something reather screwy with them as I developed pretty bad hip and knee pain. The local shoe store suggested Alden and I've been happy with them for a very long time.

yachtie wrote:

eg wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

Tony - I think whatever your nationality you either have a shoe fetish or you don't. Most Europeans do indeed walk more than most Americans. It's a car thing I think. Or that distances are greater in the great big spread out US. Not sure.
My father lived in Churchs and indeed was buried in a pair. He just wore them, had them repaired as & when, & then threw them away without a backward glance. They aren't meant to last. Trickers he treated with more respect for some reason.

It's also worthy of mention that he found anything overly expensive quite literally obscene.
Things should be well made & good for their price. Nothing more. To spend a large amount of good money (always "good money" to him) on a pair of shoes would have been something which he would have found disgusting. The act of a willful degenerate like my beloved Uncle George.
Cordo Aldens may last & last but the initial outlay on them would have been against my father's every principle.

"Very showy" he'd have sniffed, refering to the action of buying them in the first place not to the appearance of the shoes.
He equally lived modestly in every other respect. His T&A shirts were always bought in the January sales and he always used country tailors over London ones on the few occasions he had something made to measure. Usually he would buy good quality RTW in the sales and have it altered to fit.

Very Trad you might think. And "Don't be so bloody stupid" would have been his relpy.

J.


J.

An eminently sensible position, surely, and one my own father (child of the Depression as he remains) would certainly espouse. One quibble -- Aldens hardly appear "showy", at least to my eye, so you'd have to be making an ass of yourself by telling people what make your shoes were, and how much they cost, for anybody to notice. I hope this never actually happens in meatspace, though I have discovered it to be an ugly recurrence on "the interwebs" ...

I guess it's where you see the value proposition. My dad (a young man in the 30's)was of the mindset "buy good quality stuff and take care of it; it's cheaper in the long run. " Actually it's nice wearing (at least what's described on the interweb) as boring, blobby clunkers. As part of an outfit, they dont do the "look at me" thing that some other brands do. While I haven't really done a cost analysis, anecdotally I think it's cheaper (mebbe) to keep getting them resoled than buying more pairs of disposable shoes. It certainly is more satisfying philosophically.

I can see that folks have different "set points" regarding value (inital cost v. longevity). To some "internet Gentlemen" Alden cordos are a low grade machine made shoe, to others they're overpriced for what they are. Just like I can't see the value in EG's or Lattanzi's or Santoni's, others can't see the value in Aldens. And that's okay.

I remember getting Church's as my first pair of "good" shoes. black captoes IIRC. I thought I was really the nuts wearing them to work. There was something reather screwy with them as I developed pretty bad hip and knee pain. The local shoe store suggested Alden and I've been happy with them for a very long time.

Exactly. I am convinced that a little "stodge-wear" goes a long way, especially in business, and most especially in business times like right now. Solid, dependable, boring -- just the thing to separate oneself from the flash and dazzle of the brash upstart, no?

eg wrote:

Exactly. I am convinced that a little "stodge-wear" goes a long way, especially in business, and most especially in business times like right now. Solid, dependable, boring -- just the thing to separate oneself from the flash and dazzle of the brash upstart, no?

Oh but that's being a fashion victim, too isn't it?

eg wrote:

Tony Ventresca wrote:

eg wrote:

Exactly. I am convinced that a little "stodge-wear" goes a long way, especially in business, and most especially in business times like right now. Solid, dependable, boring -- just the thing to separate oneself from the flash and dazzle of the brash upstart, no?

Oh but that's being a fashion victim, too isn't it?

Strictly speaking, yes, since anti-fashion is a sort of fashion -- so anti-fashion victim, perhaps? Or maybe it is a skill, like charming clients, or being at ease whilst public speaking? Pragmatic, at any rate.

Nice save!

Florsheim, in 1965.

^
Lovely colour Michael!

I do have a soft spot for a sleeker brogue.

Sorry I can't catch an image, but J M Weston (French shoemaker IMHO = Alden, Edward Green) make a TRIPPLE sole wing tip brogue with metal tip on heal and toe. £500. Old Burlington Street, London W1.

Beauties.


Google the website (when it is up and running again)

JNW also do a very understated loafer and some other interesting lines.

RH

Saw these on a Japanese blog: Weston #677 Hunt Derby?

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Moose Maclennan wrote:

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http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3173 … 771cb6.jpg

Saw these on a Japanese blog: Weston #677 Hunt Derby?

Perfect shoos!!! On the top of my want list.

Voltaire's Bastard wrote:

Vaclav wrote:

In this Age of Quarrel can't, you make a more, peaceful name for, these shoes ?

Tugboats?  Canoes?  No matter what they are called I disdain them.  This reflects poorly upon my character, I know.

What of, Love Boats ?

Wow wee Tony. Amazing. Simply amazing.

Crikey! l can't even imagine how great it must be to own a longwing gunboat. lmagine having a shell cordovan longwing gunboat....l could wear it every day for the rest of my life.  


Regards fellas: your Shooman.

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