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#26 2008-06-11 02:39:15

Alex Roest
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

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#27 2008-06-11 07:08:50

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

To be honest I'm waiting for JG to fill in the blanks on the 'Prep' article. More as I know it.

Your discipline/self discipline comment is really to the point. You have to focus to get anything done. I'm very bad at that.

 

#28 2008-06-21 01:27:38

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

An update from Big John Gall:

http://j.simons.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page1.html

 

#29 2008-06-21 01:32:02

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

MUG!

http://www.mugmagazine.com/ivy-shop.html

 

#30 2008-06-21 02:28:40

Horace
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#31 2008-06-21 03:39:11

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

A pub & a bookies across the way and a whiskey shop & a sweet shop on either side. The old red painted joke shop closed.

 

#32 2008-06-21 04:07:50

Kingstonian
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

J Simons is in close proximity to a rather splendid theatre, dear boy.

I was told about it by someone at work. I wanted a top for golf. The discussion moved to cheap Harringtons, versus expensive goretex wet weather gear by names like Sunderland and Proquip. Of course JS have Barracuta rather than cheap Harringtons.

 

#33 2008-06-21 04:07:57

Alex Roest
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

 

#34 2008-06-21 07:08:07

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

 

#35 2008-06-21 14:05:12

jesmond
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#36 2008-06-22 01:37:37

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

I was talking about this elsewhere yesterday. Mr. S. must be around 68 now and he started in the business when he was 15 I believe. What you are seeing in the shop are all those years of experience and the contacts that he's built up over that time.
I've often posted on names which were well known in JS that remain unknown or forgotten on the American Internet clothing sites - The most obvious are' Par-Ex of New Haven' shirts & 'Buffalo Creek Traders' Virginia handsewn loafers. Only very recently have I found an American 'Eastland' loafers fan and 'Geoffrey Scott' Button-downs still remain unknown on the US MBs. And the list of names goes on.
For all this style of dress is American America has nowhere like John Simons' shop (O'Connell's probably comes closest) and America as represented on the Internet has no enthusiasts to compare to JS's customers.
We keep the 'Ivy style' torch burning in London and we always have. There's no Trad or Preppy over here. If you are into this style in London then it's Ivy you are into. Transplanted from the US and rallied around like nowhere else.

It's the greatest story never told.

J.

 

#37 2008-06-22 02:38:18

Horace
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

^^^I bet you anything though, that some of your English products were created there specifically for a market that _thought_ it was getting the "real deal".


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#38 2008-06-22 03:02:09

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

^ I've thought that about 'Geoffrey Scott' in the past - They were certainly USA made & imported into JS & the Ivy Shop, but I never saw them elsewhere. Did JS have them made? No idea. They were an entry level Ivy shirt in both shops before BD Baggies came along. Ian at the Ivy didn't rate them as their placket was too stiff. Equally he didn't rate BD Baggies for their styling details.

JS & The Ivy are/were import shops primarily. Some of the shoes had funny stories though as they were made in Northampton to US specs specifically for the US market & exported to America where JS found them & bought them & imported them back in.

Other than that they are/were both 'real deal' shops - That was the whole point of them like 'Austins' before them. English look-a-likes you could buy elsewhere.

John Simons has never stocked or sold a Ben Sherman.

J.

 

#39 2008-06-22 03:07:22

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

Horace - Did I understand you correctly? Where you thinking that the US imports at JS were really English , or that the imports were US made but only for an English export market?

Thanks -

 

#40 2008-06-22 04:22:20

Kingstonian
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Re: Recent Press on J. Simons

The whole point about Ben Sherman is that, by 1968, they were slimfit.

For those that do not know that meant not only darts but sewn-up box pleat and short sleeves as tight as a polo shirt.

JS American shirts had the full body - a completely different silhouette. Ben Sherman was for provincials. Londoners had the genuine stuff available. Polycotton was not an issue for either type though. 'Permanent press' was seen as a positive then.

 

#41 2008-06-22 05:49:22

Richmond Hill
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