a few more...

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_082/TECH_V082_S0203_P001.pdf

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_082/TECH_V082_S0204_P002.pdf

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_082/TECH_V082_S0208_P002.pdf

Thank you Tony.Reading the survey today it`s interesting to read of some of the more obscure and largely neglected Ivy clothing choices of that time like loden coats, tyrolean hats, and popover/pullover BD shirts . Even the very small details like the ubiquitous crew socks...

Hi Jack! Thank you very much for your kind words.I`ve followed this forum for quite along time now and i must admit i`m just a little in awe of the whole breadth of stylistic and sartorial knowledge of all the forumites on here. Jack your own deep passion and  enthusiasm for Ivy style  really has been infectious ! Thank you to you Jack and to everyone else on here for being so welcoming.I`ve learned so much from the forumites on here and i suppose it`s my own compulsion to really want to share my own enthusiasm and any little thing i can about facets of Ivy style which i think just might be of interest which has lead to me posting here.I may not be able to but i just wanted to try to GIVE BACK some of what you`ve imparted to me...

I would also like to say that i totally agree with you Jack on pretty much everything you`ve ever written about the Ivy style.I believe it was and should remain a youthful, playfully creative, vigorous style.There appeared to be a flair,  a youthful ingenuity to the style and indeed a lack of self consciousness which looks to have been missed and which looks like it`s  being edited out of it`s history ...

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Wowwww thank you very much for your compliment Jack.

It`s like i was saying before i really do agree with your own thoughts on what Ivy style is , was and should be. There is a wit to this style. And it`s got soul..

I do think it definately helps the more you can find out about the original Ivy style.That isn`t always easy of course.The more you learn the more you can make informed choices.Personally i like to try to soak in just as much as i can about the style almost as if by osmosis...through the pics, through the articles from the forumites on here (and to a a lesser degree other `forums`) and sometimes just through google searching.I then like to try to deconstruct and kind of `throw away` all that i`ve come to learn and understand  about the stylistic choices and options so that i can  rather follow my own inherent instincts about what will look good .Almost as if seeing the style from afresh and with new eyes..There was so much more to it than people realise. At the same time you had the modern jazz thing going  there was a simultaneous taste for folk music (Pete Seegers?) and an appreciation of natural (almost rustic; bygone artsy and craftsy) made clothing .Just as one example you didn`t just have the now prescriptive `Plain` and `Cable Shetland`s`  but you had aran style sweaters, fishermans sweaters, norwegian and fair-isle sweaters, ribbed sweaters ...and so on...There were and are so many more Ivy choices available than we may first think.I really think that that inside knowledge of the whole wide gamut of ORIGINAL Ivy League clothing style is being lost and is (more damagingly perhaps) being revised through ignorance of the facts.It is becoming narrower and narrower...I know how deeply you feel about this Jack.I know full well just how passionate and visceral your own feelings are about all this stuff.There is alot more i can write about all this so i better wrap it up here!!!!

(By the way Jack i know that what you will currently be wearing will be SPOT-ON again. You know you`re stuff....).

Some of teh O'Connell's stuff seems good though.

Though I bought one jacket that I thought was a pretty seriously padded.  Not natural shoulder at all. 

My Ben Silver RTW blue blazer with working button holes has a lovely shoulder though.  Pity they don't make them anymore. 

Next stop Trent at Eljos!

Last edited by Jack_The_Lad (2007-11-07 03:59:10)