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#101 2010-07-15 11:30:55

zuckermandl
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Re: "Sussed" -

To me, 'Sussed' brings to mind an incredibly lame song from the late 70s.
Got yer parka? wink

 

#102 2010-07-15 11:40:14

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: "Sussed" -

I think that was somewhat taking the piss, though... even if they were somehow involved in the mod revival scene, too...


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”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#103 2010-07-15 11:41:39

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: "Sussed" -

chetmiles wrote:

It's called sheep shagging.  Hunter Uni-Royals optional.

haha! did I see that one before?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#104 2010-08-02 10:21:39

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: "Sussed" -

Bump: because I like to re-read bits of this one.  Key to the nature of 'Talk Ivy'.

 

#105 2010-08-02 14:06:52

Sowtondevil
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Re: "Sussed" -

'Sussed?' 

Imagine a rather down-at-heel secondary school just off the New Kent Road - not far from the Elephant & Castle in South London.  It was called Paragon School. It is now a housing development.  But way back then in the 1960s when the school was active, the majority of 'students' were burgeoning villains. Studying for GCE and CSE examinations did not feature in their view of the world, south of the River.  Certificates of Secondary Education were for others and were denounced (and pronounced) as "Suss-tificates" on the basis that they appeared to be awarded only to those clever bastards who could "suss things out".


Too old for the orphanage - too young for the old folks' home

 

#106 2010-08-03 08:11:02

Rip Rig & Panic
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'Sussed': a complete indifference to the external world, yet without being callous.  An attachment to the jazz life, to aspects of visual culture, to the natural world in its complexity.  A cerebral insularity.  An appreciation of colour, texture, provenance, silhouette, lines, heft.

 

#107 2010-08-03 08:22:44

Sowtondevil
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Re: "Sussed" -

Rip Rig & Panic wrote:

'Sussed': a complete indifference to the external world, yet without being callous.  An attachment to the jazz life, to aspects of visual culture, to the natural world in its complexity.  A cerebral insularity.  An appreciation of colour, texture, provenance, silhouette, lines, heft.

I am struggling just a bit here - trying to reconcile a 'complete indifference to the external world' with 'attachment to the natural world in its complexity'. 
Interesting inclusion of the word 'heft' though.  What say you?


Too old for the orphanage - too young for the old folks' home

 

#108 2010-08-03 11:25:32

Rip Rig & Panic
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External as in the masses, natural as in...  nature...  Just doodling...

 

#109 2010-08-03 11:30:52

Rip Rig & Panic
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Oh, heft.  The 'heavier side of Ivy', mostly as expressed through cordo wingtips.

 

#110 2010-08-21 01:40:06

Rip Rig & Panic
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In order to be truly 'sussed', never give a fuck about anything other than what matters. 

Eliminate all inessentials.

 

#111 2010-08-21 13:28:16

Chris_H
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The older you get the less all this sort of stuff seems to matter....

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#112 2010-08-21 14:07:19

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: "Sussed" -

That's sussed.

 

#113 2010-08-22 01:12:18

Alex Roest
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Re: "Sussed" -

Rip Rig & Panic wrote:

That's sussed.

I think it's just common sense quite honestly....

 

#114 2010-08-25 13:35:18

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: "Sussed" -

Interesting that the clothes can become 'more important' even as they're growing 'less important'.  It's never going to be a matter of not caring - quite the reverse, as one tries to track down that very specific polo shirt or raincoat.  Just because there's a gradual blending in it does not mean the clothing has suffered relegation to the Fourth Division, as it were; and simplicity does not equate to dull.

 

#115 2010-08-25 13:46:40

Alex Roest
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I'd say it's definitely a plus having lost the urge to be competitive somehow. It should be enough to be in the safe knowledge one knows a thing or two about clothing in general and what suits one in particular so as to be able to just rely on one's personality shining through a basically neutral image rather splendidly cool

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#116 2010-08-25 13:52:01

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: "Sussed" -

Mm; nicely said.

 

#117 2011-09-02 02:03:38

Republican Party Reptile
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Re: "Sussed" -

Time for reassessment?

 

#118 2011-09-02 02:06:54

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: "Sussed" -

It certainly got the online Americans in a spin...  wink

 

#119 2011-09-02 03:04:25

Republican Party Reptile
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It did, perhaps because The Look in the UK has a narrower focus.  It also, however, tends to suffer from the youth-cult hangover.

 

#120 2011-09-02 03:14:34

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: "Sussed" -

Republican Party Reptile wrote:

It did, perhaps because The Look in the UK has a narrower focus.  It also, however, tends to suffer from the youth-cult hangover.

Now you see, I see the opposite - I find the online Americans far more cultish & limited in their conception of Ivy.  So many of them are so keen to limit the style it would seem. Why is that?  To dumb it down to suit their dumbed down views?  I'm not sure that's allowed.

The reality of Ivy is very messy & with a plurality of views regarding it.  But I allow our online American friends their take, whilst pointing out that they are only talking about a fraction of what they could be talking about. I'm like that.  Saintly to a fault ...   wink

 

#121 2011-09-02 03:45:40

Republican Party Reptile
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I didn't express that terribly well.  I only meant we don't do 'Trad' etc.

 

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