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#26 2008-09-15 09:41:18

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

The medium is 22.75" pit to pit.

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#27 2008-09-15 10:43:21

Matt
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

 

#28 2008-09-15 10:49:02

Matt
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#29 2008-09-15 12:19:53

the style councillor
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#30 2008-09-15 15:17:28

Alex Roest
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

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#31 2008-09-15 22:31:03

Horace
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#32 2008-09-16 06:53:48

Toffeeman
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

In the 1980s Russell Athletic made a sublime sweatshirt. It was, significantly, MADE IN USA. And this is the key point I think. Wherever 'outsourcing' (cheap 3rd world labour) occurs the quality dips alarmingly. I can think of no exception to this. The Weejun, most Brooks Brothers stock, Clarks Desert Boots, Sebago shoes, RL polo shirts, Sperry Topsiders, and many many more - the list of iconic items effectively now sold as pale imitations of the originals is depressingly long. And the sweatshirt I feel, like the polo shirt, can easily be mass produced in the Far East using cheap materials and cheap labour. Russell now sell awful products made in some sweat shop and sized for the increasingly obese American market. I would rather pay £60 for a great American sweatshirt, or £150 for a proper Bass Weejun made in Wilton, Maine. But would the mass market? Clothes made to last should be expensive but contemporary capitalism, with its unstoppable urge to shirt more and more units, prefers to offer us shoddy products that only look good on the day you buy them.

 

#33 2008-09-16 06:59:13

Taylor McIntyre
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Posts: 342

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

^ Sad, but true.

Brother - Remember when Chet Baker died and JS had that black framed photograph of him in the very centre of his window display flanked by original Bass, Walkover, Troy & Russell Athletic products?

I know you do.

Chet has gone & so have all the rest now.

But we remain haunted by them all.

The ghosts of Russell Street...

Best -

 

#34 2008-09-16 07:18:06

Chris_H
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/hardyandjohnson/

 

#35 2008-09-16 07:26:45

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

My Russells from JS in (when?) '86 (I think) have no chest logo but a tiny logo'd tag at the bottom hem of the body on the left hand side. Some I've snipped off, some I've left on. Burgundy, Charcoal Grey, Hunter Green, Navy.

Still going strong after 22 years!

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#36 2008-09-16 08:10:08

the style councillor
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#37 2008-09-16 08:25:32

Alex Roest
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#38 2008-09-16 08:41:37

Toffeeman
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

The only thing JS is "paying the price for" is for being almost 70 years old and feeling the inevitable pull to slow down and think of retirement. The business does well, and has done since 1965. He has one of the best, most interesting, sussed and loyal customer bases of any small retail business in London. Why so loyal? Because the service, like the goods he sells, is invariably impeccable.

 

#39 2008-09-16 08:49:22

Alex Roest
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#40 2008-09-16 09:04:57

the style councillor
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#41 2008-09-16 09:51:31

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

^ Just to ask why do you think that JS should be all about progress?

It seems more like a Timeless Classics sort of place to me.

- Is that just me, tho'?

Best -

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#42 2008-09-16 10:04:05

Chris_H
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Posts: 1654

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

Getting back on track, I like the look of those USA-made Cobble Cloth crews that Jesmond drew our attention to sometime back .......

http://www.filmnoirbuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3491

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/hardyandjohnson/

 

#43 2008-09-16 11:08:38

Bebop15
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

Thanks so much, everyone. 

Great forum

 

#44 2008-09-16 11:25:56

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#45 2008-09-16 12:03:48

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

I pulled out an old Russell just for you all & their 'Medium' is quite a slimline number when compared to the LL Bean I mentioned yesterday:   21" pit to pit.

I guess washing & some shrinkage will have taken its toll, but they're a nice neat fit compared to the more relaxed Bean 'Medium'.

M&S have a rather nice basic Grey Sweat too at the moment for a tenner: 22" pit to pit on the 'Medium'.

Best -

 

#46 2008-09-16 12:08:09

the style councillor
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Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

You stay right where you are HBH, unless of course, York, Elms or some other dolls head like Dylan Jones in next edition of GQ instructs you to do otherwise.

 

#47 2008-09-16 12:33:41

AQG
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#48 2008-09-16 12:45:45

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

Could you send me that book? I'll send it back as soon as I#m finished... Could take me a little while, though, as I am a little slow brain, and as I will have to excerpt all his style tips, pedantically...


As for Elms, I think he doesn't have a clue about punk rock, I thought, but he seemed to be very inside this whole Blitz Kid thing... Maybe that's something for our vile coucillor? You could be spearheading that revival, my friend! Go for it!


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#49 2008-09-16 14:41:52

H. Logg
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Posts: 133

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

Should J. Simons sell 6876 for example? I like the brand but hell no. There are other retailers that sell 6876, but there's only one JS. Why should that one particular shop change?

 

#50 2008-09-16 16:25:13

the style councillor
Member
Posts: 74

Re: The Right Sweatshirt. By Matt.

Where the f*ck did I say the old fella should sell 6876? What I'm saying is that there's plenty more local independent artisans who make quality gear at better prices if you get off your lazy f*ckin arses and do a little bit of detective work, who won't bore the tits off you giving it the old, "back in the day" patter. In fact, may I be has bold as to suggest that the yellow sweat 6876 sold last year is more Ivy and better than any sweat I've seen in JS's  for donkey's years.

 

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