Yes.. Stop Ivy Girl now please Uncle. It's not healthy!

Don't mention the M word!

I'm not mad about the shirts. The collar roll is OK, though fused and a bit stiff (3B). The placket should be lined too really. I like the sewn in box pleat. Good buttons, checks always 'line up'. They do look very good on, but they cost more then Jantzen and are 60% polyester. Never understood why they use that fabric. Maybe some people get on with it but I smell like a Balti house after a few hours.

Still, pretty much everything they make is well styled, very well cut, in tasteful colours, and difficult to get your mitts on RTW. I'm very glad they exist. Nice people too.

Well....

Some people have to be respected and maybe even coaxed a little bit. Not everybody is like you and me.

And if we do this we may get some nice new input in return for the forum. Now that new input may be of no interest to some people or even to most people, but it might interest others and then maybe other new members might come along too.

I did indeed say that you'd given Pad a reality check by PM back when all that happened. He had gone, you were still here - My 'job' here is to look after our posters. He was no longer a poster.

I'd like to find a space for ivy girl here to see what she can bring to the party. She's a toughie & a good sport, but I don't want her to walk away to be honest with you. She's unique on the MBs so far.

If she can Talk Ivy then I want her.

You are valued too, but if I lose Ivy input from her then I want something to fill that gap from whoever has  cost me it.

- Sorry to sound like a Mod., but the show must go on.

Best -

Jim

If I have upset a REAL person then I wholeheartedly apologise. Of course I am interested in fresh views and ideas. And that's what I thought I brought here - A different point of view.
If by 'sniping' you may be referring to my little 'Talk Ivy' satire. Where you a little bit put out by me taking the mickey? I thought we were all big boys on here. 
But i'm afraid your little teacher dressing down was so piss poor and frankly embarrassing that I have to take time to review the point of why I contribute to this forum.
Very, very un-cool Jim...

How have I ripped into Ivy Girl? I scoffed a made light of the fact that I thought she was you're creation, which you went along with and didn't deny. I have not said one derogatory word about the girl. If she is real as you say then well done and good luck to her.
But this really isn't about Ivy Girl. What happened to the PMs saying "I'll watch your back Beatnik." and "Say what you want" etc. So I ruffle a few feathers here and there. Do you really want a forum full of droids who all just bleat along in agreement?
Yes I did leave, but if you remember it was because I felt I didn't know enough to contribute. Not "I wasn't into Ivy". I just had too much respect for the rest of the forum. But how much does Cheeky Monkey contribute? or Mike? but I don't hear you telling them off.
I know you fancy yourself as a schmoozer and a player Jim, but I'd rather prefer it if you could just be more honest.

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Why do you keep bringing this girl, into the conversation. We're past that. Stop hiding behind a teenage kid. I really don't care if you bring a troupe of Bolivian transsexuals in on the forum.
This is about you and me. You've been monumentally uncool Jim. I think we would all have more respect for you if you just admitted it. You're not the Fonz chum, we all make mistakes. Just come clean and we will move on. I've already apologised...
If you want me to go just say so... I find this all as dull as you Jim.
Thanks for all the PMs gents.

Well okay then. As to the original topic I am a fan. Their shirts have a near perfect fit. They  have 100% cotton shirts as well as the blends. I have a few of their checks, pretty nice.  Their sta prest don't feel like cardboard and fit nice as well. The shipping across the Atlantic is pretty reasonable. I obviously see the appeal of some of their gear to those of us who use Ivy as a basis of style and aren't so "hardcore". I would be surprised if they had any stuff the purists would be into.

Probably so, yeah. They limit their customer base on some of the clothes because of the fit but for some of us it's perfect. I'm hoping they put an Oxford cloth BD out at some point. The details on their BDs are spot on. I still get all my new solids, and stripes from BB, Black Fleece, or Gitman but JTG really has the market corned for slim fitting checks in all sorts of nice colorways.

Jump The Gun is a riot of polyester and poor tailoring. About as far from Ivy League as you can get. Also I don't mean to be discourteous to 'Ivy Girl' - she writes with wit and has a bit of an angle - but I'm afraid I find the notion of the contemporary youth cult orientated British Ivy League attired female just an hilarious impossibility. I found female mods absurd, but at least they had a 'scene' and a record collection to aspire to, but what has an 'Ivy Girl' got? Isn't this just a mod girl with a penchant for a button-down shirt? Maybe a duffle bag/coat, a Blue Note album and a pair of penny loafers thrown in? Ivy is just a hyper-masculine aesthetic. It's old school masculine style. The style has contunued due to dysfunctionally obsessive male interest. There's no interface with the feminine. Female culture already has a highly evolved sophisticated language of clothes. Male culture on the whole hasn't. This is why styles like Ivy prosper amongst boys who care. It's our style - our hairstyles and make-up and bags and accessories. It's a masculine manipulation of a female dialogue. Unlike in virtually every other area of life girls here really do have absolutely nothing to teach or offer us.

GG