42 jacket

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960s-Ivy-Lea … 500wt_1287

ThatGuy wrote:

The Thin Repp wrote:

Scotch Ivy?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-60s-Men … 564ac268de

Definitely a derby jacket. Surprised it didn't sell to someone out there!

Subtle, isn't it?

woofboxer wrote:

Kingston1an wrote:

42 jacket

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960s-Ivy-Lea … 500wt_1287

Looks nice, anyone we know?

A shame it's not my size... He also has this nice summery shirt up for bids:



45% linen 55%cotton 'Kyber Weave' - I love stuff like this!

I suspect so, Edith.

'Ivy League' has a lot to answer for when you consider the pure forms put forward by Brooks and where much of it was to lead when others jumped on the bandwagon.

I increasingly loathe the term 'Ivy League', even though it is stylistically correct, as it currently misleads so many just as it did in the past.

Marketing, eh?

Pfffffffft.

Never in a million years will the style get back to the purity of the Brooks vision. First 'Ivy League', then 'Preppy', then 'Trad' & 'PITA' on the internet with their paltry i-Attempts...  Baggage, baggage, baggage. And all of it just marketing of the crudest kind too.


Oh the 346, RIP. You're better off out of it.

I think pretty much the Mad Men Ad men won. 'I.L.' stuck & the style was recorded as such. Then came 'Preppy' which has stuck for even longer (and isn't even the same thing).

But I'd guess without the colour scheme of the codified OPH of 1980 ?

... But the term is in Erich Segal's book of 1970 and was in circulation mainly as a gently mocking put-down long, long before then.

Pre-OPH 'Preppy' seems to have been quite sane. Post-OPH with all its exaggerations it was just a bit of fun down the Mall. Totally.

Sadly use the term today & it's the OPH you're saddled with. Not that Boola-Boola 'Ivy' is much better...

What's in a name ?

Absolutely everything.

I draw the line at Preppy though!

Jimmy Frost Mellor wrote:

I increasingly loathe the term 'Ivy League', even though it is stylistically correct, as it currently misleads so many just as it did in the past.

"I use only the words I am given. If they don't mean anything anymore, give me new ones. Or be silent."

- Samuel Beckett

Speaking of words, a kid walked into the Andover Shop the other day and asked if our MTM trousers had to be cut "very trad". As much as that word gets thrown around online it is still jarring to hear in actual speech. Next it will be someone walking in and asking "pardon me, do you carry OCBDs?"

The Thin Repp wrote:

Speaking of words, a kid walked into the Andover Shop the other day and asked if our MTM trousers had to be cut "very trad". As much as that word gets thrown around online it is still jarring to hear in actual speech. Next it will be someone walking in and asking "pardon me, do you carry OCBDs?"

Zach, I PM'd you about the Andover chinos.  What is the cut and cloth like?

marlowe v2.0 wrote:

The Thin Repp wrote:

Speaking of words, a kid walked into the Andover Shop the other day and asked if our MTM trousers had to be cut "very trad". As much as that word gets thrown around online it is still jarring to hear in actual speech. Next it will be someone walking in and asking "pardon me, do you carry OCBDs?"

Zach, I PM'd you about the Andover chinos.  What is the cut and cloth like?

PM sent. Aside from Bills we have two cuts in our own make. The GENE in standard khaki tan cotton twill with a good heft, and the WILSON in golden British khaki. Both have an ivy rise, 11.5-12". The Wilson has a tapered bottom, 8.25" and the GENE has a straight 9.5" bottom.

I'll add it to the list of jazz questions to ask Charlie when he gets a minute.