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#1701 2013-09-22 07:30:44

Liam
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Nevermind you spotted it.... wink


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#1702 2013-09-22 07:32:08

the_slacker
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Yes. Strangely my post disappeared before I could edit it.


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#1703 2013-09-22 07:35:27

Liam
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I was trying to read it too but when I clicked on the topic it only showed up to the post previous to yours


Search me guv.


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#1704 2013-09-22 08:15:29

the_slacker
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

It was an ironic error.


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#1705 2013-09-22 09:31:34

Yuca
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some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#1706 2013-09-22 09:52:03

the_slacker
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

It wasn't an error, it was a light hearted remark. I'm quite aware he didn't wear American clothes, it didn't need to be pointed out to me.


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#1707 2013-09-22 09:55:52

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Last edited by Leer R. (2013-09-22 09:58:11)

 

#1708 2013-09-22 10:31:34

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Just a little info on The Sweeney,
Carter and Regan's characters were given a specifically 'transatlantic' look (softer jackets and poloneck jumpers being the prime examples) in an attempt to give the show a look closer to Kojak ( an absolutely huge ratings success for the BBC at the time, the Regan/Carter dynamic was supposed to echo the Kojak/Croker relationship) and also to distinguish the characters from their superiors (always in a more English tailored wardrobe, again echoing Kojaks relationship with his superiors).
Just compare the wardrobe of the pilot 'Regan' shown as part of 'Armchair Cinema' strand and the wardrobe in the series, the difference is very evident.
This even had an effect on the choice of vehicle (Ford Consul GTV6, the most American looking car produced by FordUK at that point) and the choice of booze (the pilot beer and the series spirits usually whisky).
Thames TV always had an eye on overseas sales for their shows and quite often made subtle changes for the transatlantic market.
The look may not be 'Ivy' but it has a very American edge.


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#1709 2013-09-22 10:55:19

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I watch the show whenever I see it is on, as I find 70s UK/London fascinating. The clothes always look very British to me, including those worn by Regan and Carter, however those 2 are certainly more casually dressed than their superiors. If their outfits have an American edge I haven't noticed it, indeed the Britishness of the programme would have been a major part of its appeal to overseas audiences.

That is not to dispute that the producers were conscious of appealing to the overseas market, and perhaps casual clothing was more necessary for US audiences than the domestic market. Nonetheless, I have never seen Regan wearing anything that has struck me as American (ivy or non-ivy).

Last edited by Yuca (2013-09-22 10:57:14)


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#1710 2013-09-22 10:56:41

Yuca
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#1711 2013-09-22 10:57:22

Liam
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"Plup." Jimmy Frost Nachtman.

 

#1712 2013-09-22 11:25:51

Acton_Baby
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#1713 2013-09-22 11:30:27

Leer R.
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#1714 2013-09-22 12:12:01

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#1715 2013-09-22 12:16:03

Liam
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I like Bullitt. McQueen carries it though and the music helps too.

Robert Duvall isn't in it enough.


"Plup." Jimmy Frost Nachtman.

 

#1716 2013-09-22 12:22:08

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#1717 2013-09-22 13:31:28

Armchaired
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I used to get afters in the same pub as the head of the sweeney back in the eighties.
Was quite funny because the place was usaully full of police and villians.
Infarct they knew each over and drank together.


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#1718 2013-09-22 14:00:27

woofboxer
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

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#1719 2013-09-22 14:08:08

Acton_Baby
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#1720 2013-09-22 15:17:43

Yuca
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#1721 2013-09-22 15:32:02

Acton_Baby
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

^ Yuca interesting point, but they were supposed to be dressed like the villains they were after and those were the people who spent  their 'ill-gotten' cash at Austins and Cecil Gee on the fancy foreign stuff to wear out at the weekend.

The coloured dress shirt and tie combo, a fave of Regan, was pure Halston of that period.
The flapless patch pockets and 'heavy' lapels on the tweed sportcoats fit right into Eleganza's fall ranges for men thro' the early 70's.

I'm not saying it's totally USA! USA! but the influence is definitely there.


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#1722 2013-09-22 16:48:04

Leer R.
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#1723 2013-09-22 17:26:34

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#1724 2013-09-23 04:00:25

Acton_Baby
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

^ Kingstonian, I know I'm straining the credibility of the point, but as Mr. Yuca decided to embark on a bit  pedantry towards Mr Slacker I thought I might as well be a little pedantic over the origin of the Sweeney.
I make no claims to it being sartorially good, but it's American influence was very evident in-particular it's 'anti-hero' lead characters and the choice of vehicles and booze  (compare it to other UK detective shows of the same period, and it's positively dripping with the influence of the then 'groundbreaking' Kojak even down to the structure of the episodes including the 'melancholy 'end theme').
Your point about it being 'Geezer' territory is very valid, as I wrote earlier the Met at the time had more problems with the casual attire on duty aspect of the show than any of the prejudice, misogyny and boozing on show.
Americans dressed as stylishly bereft as the Brits during the early 70's IMHO (the point about Halston is very accurate, following the introduction of the tonally matched tie and shirt on the fashion runway in 71/72, it went worldwide in a matter of months).

"..meanwhile at the station there's a couple of likely lads, who swear like hows you father"


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#1725 2013-09-23 07:35:01

Kingston1an
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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

The recent Sweeney film remake starred uberGeezer Ray Winstone.

'Bet free six five. Naaow.' Any American links tenuous now.  More Lock,Stock and Two Smoking Cockneys.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

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