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#2001 2014-01-23 12:31:39

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

As an aside, I noticed that the Monty only has three toggle fasteners compared to the four of the "original" style (#512). I actually think the Monty looks better but in terms of functionality??? Possibly a bit flappy around the knees......

Any thoughts?

 

#2002 2014-01-23 12:50:08

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I am very confused as my original style Gloverall is true to size and doesn't come very large. The 40 is like a 40, not bigger or oversized. I am wearing Euro size 46-48 or 38R. It is slightly bigger than my Barbour Duffle, and that is M/40.  If I had a 38, a Sports coat underneath wouldn't work well, it would be tight. You can all see how it fits in my blog... Probably they changed their sizing?

 

#2003 2014-01-23 12:55:28

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2004 2014-01-23 13:11:06

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#2005 2014-01-23 13:41:01

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

This UK-based company claims to be the oldest duffel coat manufacturer in the world. They offer something akin to Gloverall's Monty but with a current sale price that is almost £200 cheaper.

http://www.dufflecoatsuk.co.uk/mens-long-duffle-coat-wooden-toggle-camel

Certainly looks the part but perhaps with less of the cache?

 

#2006 2014-01-23 13:45:05

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^
Looks almost identical to the Gloverall.  I like that it doesn't have the large throat tab hanging down.  I feel that would be a little irritating, since I'd probably not have it fastened very often.  It's 70% wool, as opposed to the 90% wool Gloverall.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2007 2014-01-23 13:47:29

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I like their Paddock coat too.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2008 2014-01-23 14:03:53

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#2009 2014-01-23 14:04:32

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

I could force myself to wear the olive pea coat too.

Incidentally, I found a Gloverall duffle in top condition in a charity shop recently for a fiver - I've never liked them but forced myself to try it on and...looked like a total t**t.


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#2010 2014-01-23 14:21:51

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2011 2014-01-23 14:30:44

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You're right, I was looking at this link - http://www.dufflecoatsuk.co.uk/mens-long-duffle-coat-camel

 

#2012 2014-01-23 14:31:48

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#2013 2014-01-23 14:37:08

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I don't know enough about the history of the monty but if you follow the blog links that I posted earlier you'll see photos of early three-toggle closure duffle coats from the '50s.

 

#2014 2014-01-23 14:42:25

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

If I were in the market, on my budget I'd probably just go for the Duffle Coats UK model.  I like the 4 toggle and the no big neck flap.  Otherwise, pretty much looks the same.  The Gloverall may be better constructed / warmer, but probably not enough to warrant spending twice as much.  Again, this coming from someone that gets very limited use out of such a coat.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2015 2014-01-23 16:03:26

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'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

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#2016 2014-01-23 16:05:20

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#2017 2014-01-24 00:09:54

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Last edited by Leer R. (2014-01-24 00:35:54)

 

#2018 2014-01-24 04:41:50

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#2019 2014-01-25 10:16:17

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Just rewatched The Third Man last night and the British lieutenant was wearing an original three toggle monty.

 

#2020 2014-01-25 10:36:27

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

Well spotted Ollie and stylistically correct for a film released in 1949.

From what I understand the surplus military/naval issue wartime Montys were subsequently sold-off to the public probably making the original three-toggle variety more commonplace in the late 40s and early 50s (educated guess).

Subsequent variants may have come into vogue in later years e.g. the 4 toggle ones seen in some of the (1960s?) Ivy ads marketed by Gloverall.

 

#2021 2014-01-25 11:35:43

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#2022 2014-01-25 11:39:53

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ich nich sprechen die Deutsch smile

 

#2023 2014-01-25 14:47:49

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big_smile
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#2024 2014-01-26 08:14:25

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Last edited by Harpo (2014-01-26 08:26:11)


Randy lower-class trifler

 

#2025 2014-01-26 08:33:21

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Re: Ebay / Etsy alert

^
How a duffle should fit.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

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