My first thread started here, so hope you guys don't mind.
Sort of influenced by ivy league style 'with edge' thread on here, I was wondering about what sort of stuff the younger guys on here are wearing and where they were buying from. Are you looking towards vintage pieces from Brooks and the like, or 'modern' brands like APC, Albam etc. Or somewhere in between. I suppose in some ways, taking IL style in a notably progressive way yet still influenced by the look. Or is that not possible...?
In the back of my mind I always remember that a few very much un-clued up friends from school used to laugh at my baracuta labelling it a 'grandad' jacket (which debately is half-true). The same for penny loafers.
On a side note, when in London next week I'd quite like to pick up a bag for whilst I'm on campus (i.e. not weekend size), and was wondering if there were any interesting suggestions?
i keep looking for vintage items on ebay, the online message boards, and at vintage shops, but i don't have any luck because of my size. everything i have is contemporary.
compared to traditional ivy league style, the modern interpretation is more formal in some details and more casual in others. of course, it's still much more formal and traditional looking than what most people wear today.
Vintage really is a crap shoot. Some people have great luck. Look at some of the stuff in the Ebay thread. 1966, especially, seems to be able to pull all kinds of steals. I have a bit of vintage stuff but I have never had all that much luck. I am not sure how valid my opinion is on the topic above. I am nearly 30, and I live in America. I think the English and Europeans here can get away with a lot more because they don't have to be on "preppy douche bag" watch in regards to their own outfit. The most important things for me to pull off "Ivy with an edge" is fit and attitude. If you keep the fit pretty trim, and you don't appear to me overly concerned you are wearing "stodgy" clothes than it's easy. For what it's worth, I get the most mileage out of the following brands: Brooks Brothers, LL Bean( I have a good tailor) Gitman Vintage (Oxfords), Fred Perry (polo shirts), John Smedley (Best jumpers/sweaters I have ever worn), Black Fleece (Oxfords and Madras), Levi's, Jump the Gun (short sleeve shirts, harrington knock-offs), Red Wing, Loake, Alden, and Bass. Nearly all of my sport coats and suits are vintage. Unless you go MTM, there is going to be nothing modern that even comes close on those. It takes a lot of patience and searching. For every brand I listed above those pieces are really diamonds in the rough. They all produce so much garbage. Even a shit brand like Rugby produces decent logo-less Oxfords. I have another kid on the way and am in the process of streamlining my wardrobe so I just have to replace rather than acquire. It's pretty difficult.
Last edited by Suitedbooted2000 (2009-08-28 07:59:31)
Cheers for all the post above,
Suited, I have come from a fairly mod/suede type direction, so am familiar with Smedley (some stuff always pops up in TK maxx) and FP limited polos (used to be a big fan, still pretty good for now).
Definately think it's easier to have 'the edge' in the UK, compared with america where I'm sure there are many preppy stereotypes. I find it interesting how people my age (20) adapt a style of 20 year olds 40 odd years ago.
I will add more here later, but for now I'm off to the pub in the real world.
All the best
here a good website for clothers http://www.oipolloi.com/oipolloi/shop/latest.php
Adam, never been a fan of tote bags. Always seen them as a girl thing. But thanks all the same.
Saying that, big fan of Albam - was going to get some of their chinos this week in fact.
Suited, oi polloi have some good stuff in, and it makes a world of difference that they put up proper measurements of clothes.
I'm in high school and wear some Paul Smith brogued boots, topsiders, Purcells, raw jeans (Imperial), RRL officer chinos, white t-shirts, some thrifted BB flannel pants, lots of Rugby and Uniqlo buttondowns, some plain Uniqlo merino sweaters, a Hickey Aran, a few gray athletic sweatshirts, a peacoat, a Yoko devereaux cropped herringbone jacket, a checkered harrington, and an old 50's watch on a Yale blue & white watchstrap. I will probably pick up fair isle and shaggy dog sweaters for the winter, along with a pair of duckboots. I think I dress with distinct Ivy undertones, without looking stodgy or costume-y.
I think that's the key, at any age - the right mix of old and new from here and there. Make the clothes work for you.
Nothing worse than a look bought lock stock and barrel from somewhere, whether it be home furnishings or the clothes you wear.
^ Wise words.
Moose - I'm wearing your old jacket today. Lovely stuff!
Best,
Jim
Wmmk, that's sort of what I'm getting at. I think when young especially, there's great risk of looking like you're trying too hard to be part of a look or scene or whatever you want to call it. Myself, I aim to find a balance between classic campus ivy style with something such that people don't think I'm totally revivalist (I'm thinking of parellels with mod/skinhead sorts you see about in the UK alot).
Saying that, I'm sure me saying this doesn't sit well with the hardcore ivy-ists (ivy stylists?) but to make it work today for my age I reckon that has to be some tweaking of the style of sorts.
I reckon you've got it spot on look wise by the sounds of it wmmk for a young modern ivy look. But I've still got much to learn
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-09-02 13:48:13)
What old farts like me have to consider is what we would we wear if we were young and gorgeous & into The Look today.
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-09-03 03:38:02)
I think it's interesting that there seems to be a turning point in all our lives when you realise you're not young anymore.
Sadly a lot of people don't and carry on wearing the same clothes they wore in their 20's right into their 40's and beyond. They say some people get stuck in the era they feel they looked their best. Hence you see women in their 50's and 60's still done up in their Elizabeth Taylor make up and blokes still scraping a quiff together.
If you have always dressed in the Ivy style then you could have floated seamlessly from youth through to middle age without changing your shoes. But for many of us here there must have been an epifanal moment when you realised " I'm now officially a guffer". What was your age reality call?