Mormons were not too intrusive during my stay. I did get approached when I walked through the grounds of their Temple but they thought they were talking to co-religionists. Genealogy buffs would appreciate their family records provision (so you can convert all your dead relatives)

Scooters are for Euro boulavardier types and narrow lanes. They look wrong next to Mack trucks and Hummers.

SLC is not a place for anybody who enjoys a drink but it was fine for Winter sports. TRAX railway to Midvale burbs and buses to four Cottonwood Canyon resorts. Alta is the trad resort. Skiers only. Snowboarders need not apply.

I have not been to Kansas but it sounds like Heartland America. ' Whats the Matter with Kansas' puts a case that Republicans appeal to Kansas voters on moral issues which they fail to deliver. They then screw the voters economically. Back in the old days the state was apparently quite radical. Being suspicious of intellectuals strikes me as a healthy trait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Matter_with_Kansas%3F

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-America/dp/080507774X/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253556852&sr=1-10

Last edited by Kingstonian (2009-09-21 12:20:45)

Mormons used to go to the kids' playing field when I was young and try to organise softball games.

Sporting imperialism !!!!

I never joined in. The area then got too rough for missionaries.

Hard Bop Hank – so many questions and so little time… but I’ll try to respond over the next day or two.

I was 15 in 1968 – so too young to be a proper mod but from the age of about 12 I was taking a keen interest in what older guys were wearing.  I lived in Essex about 30 miles from central London and spent, as soon as funds would allow a good deal of time shopping, drinking and just hanging out there.

One could also get a fairly good feel for what was happening at football matches at West Ham, Arsenal and Chelsea and from holiday resorts at bank holidays, especially Clacton, Bournemouth, and Brighton and so on.

Boots and shoes – my clear recollection is that desert boots were a favourite casual shoe of mid 60s mods, appearing alongside Hush Puppies, Solatios and other Italian inspired shoes. 

But by the time mod had evolved into hard mod and then skinhead footwear had moved on.  I guess we are now talking about the late 60s.  Now ‘casual footwear’ comprised DMs and monkey boots and more formal shoes included Solatios still and with Royals starting to emerge.  I recall getting my first Royals at the end of 1969 from the Squire Shop (black longwing).  I don’t recall a desire to adopt an ‘Ivy look’ or that anyone really knew what Ivy was back then.  I do remember that Royals had suddenly become de rigueur as part of the suedehead look. Most progressed from brogue to smooth to the new ‘Gibson’ and then loafers by early 1970.

Was it working class?  Predominantly I suppose but most of my friends came from professional households. 

I'll try to deal with some other items of clothing bit by bit - perhaps moving up gradually from the feet!

We've got to allow for regional variations here remember. Styles, fads and fancies changed from town to town.

Young Brideshead is similar vintage to me though I am a year older.

I have never heard of Solatio. It sounds a bit rude.

Brideshead seems to be going more for classic British stuff these days. I would say that applies to me too.

Enjoying this post, I'm just going to sit back and hear it from the horse mouth



Lewis

Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2009-09-23 02:24:21)

Just finished reading the thread linked within the thread that Lewis linked here....

So I got some answers...

However the original poster on modculture added :

"Those John Lobb's, apart from being some 30+ years before the ones I'm after aren't too far off. There are three main details in which they differ.

1. They have a split toe, mine didn't.

2. The piping that separates the apron of the uppers finished further down on the front corner of the toe on mine, not finishing short as on these.

3. The apron on these is plain whereas mine had interlacing .

Another lesser detail is that the outer edge of the piping on mine was saw-toothed as if cut with pinking shears. Apart from that in general shape & style they are pretty damn close."


the "saw-toothed" part reminds me of what Jim calls "crust-pie" on American loafers....

Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2009-09-23 02:05:39)

BTW, I got some vintage shoes from my family: 2 pairs of clumpy heavy 70s shoes like in the Neale shoes advert, one of them black leather, the other one two-tone suede, and two pairs of slim lightweight 60s blake-stitched basket-weave shoes, one of them tan suede, the other one dark brown leather... All these shoes are not really beautiful.... they're... interesting.

If I can find them at my parents I might sell them at eBay...

Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2009-09-23 02:36:21)