A very good afternoon with a fellow Ivyist today during which we finally pinned down the UK / US Ivy divide.
And it's all very obvious.
Knowledge is hard won over here in Blighty and so what we absolutely have no respect for is the rewriting of history.
America, on the other hand, loves reinvention and has a very bad habit of continually tailoring its history to suit whatever position it wishes to take on any given subject at any given moment.
All the usual names got thrown around as the waiters hovered at our elbows, but no solution was found to this divide.
In fact, if anything, we relished the fact that very few worth listening to in both the UK & the US had any time for the rewriters when it came to the Ivy style.
Uncompromising, I know - And that was something else we relished too.
Another increasing trend within Ivy we discussed is 'those who should know better' joining in with the rewriters for whatever motives they might have - Loyalty to their employers, the desire to be populist/popular or to further their own agendas, etc... And again all the usual names got thrown around once more.
There is no solution to any of this. And that situation remains the most desirable. Things are either right or they are wrong.
(Purely as a PS to this post I should mention that Mr. Chensvold's forthcoming celebrations of one year of his Ivy-Sty blog are awaited with interest. Having just had five years of 'Trad', those of us with an eye for these things look forward to see what he does.)
Best -
- Important to add that some Americans are very sound when it comes to Ivy. Online you will find between five and ten, depending which way the wind is blowing on any given day. In the real world many many more exist.
It's been a long strange journey, Uncle.
Good God. Have we really degenerated to historiography?
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-09-27 03:45:46)
That's going further than my point here, Alex, and I do agree with you.
My point here is that the tradition is what it is. It is simply wrong to rewrite it and then still call it the tradition.
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-09-27 06:19:04)