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#26 2009-10-02 05:40:25
- The Thin Repp
- Ivy Evangelist
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
http://www.etsy.com/shop/NewtonStreetVintage Classic Vintage Ivy League Clothing on Etsy.
#27 2009-10-02 05:56:25
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#28 2009-10-02 07:26:38
- Gibson Gardens
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
And Clarks used to advertise their Desert Boots in Esquire back in the day. Very Ivy, though they seem strangely to have been eliminated from the contemporary American conception of 'the look'. I'd love to think that this was a considered rejection of the shoddier contemporary Vietnamese Clarks boot but I fear it is instead merely a stylistic blindspot.
GG
#29 2009-10-02 07:43:02
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
I'd bet it is because there are no Desert Boots in the Official Preppy Handbook.
Poor Scholarship once more!
#30 2009-10-02 08:07:00
- Gibson Gardens
- Ivy Author
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
Is that their primary source book? God help us. I hate that bloody book. So braindead 1980s. All that unabashed reactionary nonsense - the days of Reagan/Thatcher/Merchant-Ivory white linen films/shoulder pads/Helena Fucking Bonham Carter/DuranDuran - to me the word 'preppy' is all part of that. It's Ivy with the style extracted. Ivy as caricature. Style blind. Colour blind. Brash and soulless. A million miles away from my notion of the natural shoulder look and its associations.
GG
#31 2009-10-02 08:14:26
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
- Let me just promise the watching Americans that I'm not GG.
And even more interesting, we grew up 170 plus miles apart (is that right?).
He's a Top Chap though, a real Kosher Cat.
#32 2009-10-02 08:34:52
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#33 2009-10-02 08:43:41
- Gibson Gardens
- Ivy Author
- Posts: 873
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
I sometimes think that if it wasn't for J.Simons (and a handful of associates) in the UK, and the amazing things the Japanese do, then Ivy League as a term for a style of dress would have long died out. Certainly it appears in America to be largely redundant, replaced by 'trad' or 'preppy' in much mutated form. I say it again - thank God for Johnny Simons, thank God for Japan and Take Ivy and Illustrated Ivy and Van Clothing and The Button Down Club and all the rest of their mad obsessional stuff!
GG
#34 2009-10-02 08:51:18
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
...but I'm really not sure about these "hungry butt" trousers (thanks again for that term, AQG)... a lot of that Van stuff looks nice, different cup of tea!
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#35 2009-10-02 08:53:43
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
I have to add again, that this is all about personal taste...
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#39 2009-10-02 10:35:27
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
Last edited by Russell_Street (2009-10-02 10:45:19)
#41 2009-10-02 10:57:17
- mike
- Member
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- Posts: 1397
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
lets get back to that 'hungry butt' - LOL
You love him? He is hephaistion.
#42 2009-10-02 11:50:02
- ScarletStreet
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken
#43 2009-10-02 11:55:55
- ScarletStreet
- Member
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken
#44 2009-10-03 01:41:13
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#45 2009-10-03 02:33:37
- ScarletStreet
- Member
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Re: Lee Japan Ivy
I noticed that too, Hank. I wouldn't even begin to know how to go about trying to get my hands on any of this stuff though.
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken
#49 2009-10-03 05:55:40
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#50 2009-10-03 06:21:57
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: Lee Japan Ivy
Yes - I don't link ScarletStreet to 'Trad' in any way in my mind's eye. I was just picking up on his point that there was TradSnark in this thread.
You make good points about Ivy, Hank. As befits one quoted by the NYC Financial Times on the subject.
... Who has more fun than us?