I'd agree that that's what the ol' Trad game is/was all about.

The clothes were just the excuse for trying to talk about the above.

NeoCon + NeoPrep = Trad.

So few were actually ever really into clothes or style. The clothes were just a prop for all the rest.

^ And the exceptions to the above were damn few, but when we saw them they could be very good.

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If Western culture is in engaged in battle with the East, I believe the 'yellow-peril' is what it used to be called, why are all our business leaders and vulture capitalists busy relocating all our manufacturing there?

Western culture gave us Nazism and the war against "inferior" values/genes, eugenics wot?

TMC, what's the message and what's the solution?  You've scattered some fiddlesticks that's all.....

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^All very well good, but exactly how will this effect the dollar in my pocket?

You can call them Ishmael if you want, but Thatcher represented the ultimate in self preservation for the ruling elite. It helps if you imagine Dennis giving two fingers up as he ineptly harvested "managed" Burmah-Castrol, whilst listening to this excellent Quincy Jones track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_R5VTfE_Sg&feature=related

The Tory rags, including The Telegraph which on 13-11-09 had one of Simon Heffers editorials blaming the lack of moral fibre and unemployment in the UK on the white working class, and the parents of the chavs. I agree, parents are too blame, who was the parent of that spineless bastard currently hiding in a secure compound in Spain, yes, that's him, the boy that squealed Mark 'Scratcher' Thatcher.

Whatever they may be called, by political idealogy or theories, judge them alone by their deeds and actions.

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FNB's answer to The Interchange.

It will need work. Moderator needs to shamelessly promote ideas which he approves of and crush any opposition.

Formby: Exactly, China will have to start servicing its own internal markets, which is part of the plan anyway, and then they will turn the back on the West.  We need to ensure that we still have the manufacturing capability and capacity to operate and thrive.  So much manufacturing is being located to not only China, but India. And its not too the same standards.

Look at all the stainless steel contaminated with Cobalt 60 that came out of India last Autumn, the German authorities found 150tons of the stuff alone.

China has come along way in the last 15years, in the mid-90's I was involved with one of the power stations in the New Territories outside of Hong Kong in what was still Communist China.  We were constantly harrassed with endless streams of Non-conformance reports by the Chinese client - we would send boxes of fittings with the item code labelled on the outside with a packing list detailing the contents.  An non-confirmance would arrive advising we had only sent one item, they would not open the box unless specifically instructed.  We sent an iron-fairy mobile crane and received a 76 item non-conformance advising us to replace and ship a new crane out, the items were all to do with paint scuffs and markings on the tyres.

Britain was already importing steel in the 1850's and I attended a lecture by a historian whilst an under-graduate who pinpointed the industrial decline commencing at the time of the 1854 Great Exhibition.  The USA had a more extensive and developed railway network by the time of the Civil War. And Germany had insurance schemes and pensions by the turn of the century. Ofcourse, when we emerged exhausted from WWI and WWII the old game of Empire and navy was already a burden.

The Marshall Plan money, for which we received (contrary to popular opinion) more than any other European nation, was spent on the Welfare State and making a nation fit for heroes. Germany spent her money on industrial reconstruction. 

What I am trying to say, is that Britain needs to do more than just banking if it is to avoid an ever larger and pissed off underclass.

Yucca: I avoided the environmental stuff, as there's enough depression in what I posted already. My missis is studying some post graduate environmental coordination malarkey at present, she informs me enough already.

Still no word from TMC?

^Maybe TMC could tell us? He's informed us he's engaged to/with(?) someone(M/F?) who knows about the battle of the West against inferior cultures and then to quote Paul Weller from the Eton Rifles "he ran off home for his tea". 

He has no message other than fear.

This bastardisation of "Trad" as something removed from trad-jazz has something sinister at its core. But we await TMC, we await his words of wisdom.