Last edited by Coolidge (2006-09-09 14:35:57)

Pretty sure that Fred's oddly green number was a cotton knit.
Cotton jumpers were always marketed as year round items...

I'd have worn a Shetland tho'.

Funny that pink sweater could be a fine cashmere. I just gave mom a bubblegum pink cashmere cable sweater that was a bit snug on me. Id bought it from H.Herzfeld (Or rather, dear old dad paid for it) in maybe 1990. A wonderfully fine, 2 ply crewneck.

God knows how much the bloody thing would cost now. Im so glad i stocked up on cashmere sweaters in the downturn at the beginning of the millenium.

It's cotton!

Look at the collar!
Look at the close ups in the Giant vibrator of C. talking to Audrey!

And Fred?

Cotton again!

Nice touch is Tom's Loden Shet with bad brown elbow patches in the Pink sweater scene.

A nice grey cashmere on 'It's my head, it's my head' guy too.

IMVHO.

Miles.

David--

I am increasingly disillusioned about the state of things over there.  Recent threads devoted to making fun of "your un-trad boss" and "proles in a trad family" have really soured me on the whole thing.  I don't want to start hating my hobby.

I was posting less and less, I may be out completely.  Longwing and Coolidge are here, but I'll miss Patrick and a few other guys.

When I'm back in a posting mood, I think it'll probably be over here--although I am a bit weirded out by "Trip Chauncey's" over-the-top hostile mockery of Harris.  I've had my problems with the guy, but jeez, that just gets into a whole sickly- uncomfortable area.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Anyway, I agree with you, and as far your invitation goes, I'm in.  Thanks.

PS:

I am completely over the moon over my new Press tweed jacket--the beige patch-pocketed number from this season's catalog--best lapel roll and natural shoulders I have ever personally seen.  A beauty.

Just thought I'd share.

These little brown shoes/are longin' to stray...

What I like about this place, and why I am going to stay here,  is we're doing what we used to do regularly over there before people started leaving:

1. Asking about where to find item X

2. Asking questions like Horace's about the best yellow oxford...stuff that nobody else would get but is important to us. And stuff that actually works in real life. It is true that I own some bright yellow trousers but I don't wear them more than once or twice a year and have ltitle concern about them.  We seem here to focus on something that can actually be worn out in public on a regular basis, not just at a summer cocktail party of a certain kind and really only then, and even then as an object of slight amusement at times.

3. Identifying the origins of some garment we saw in a movie like Metropolitan

4. Reminiscing and learning about the history of trad stores, especially ones I am not old enough to remember. I really think it's fascinating, especially when I find something at a thrift store and you guys have heard of it. That is what I often miss Tom22 for...he knew the old Connecticut stores like the back of his hand, when they closed, etc. It was very useful for dating items.

5. We engage in flights of fancy here without it getting rediculous. This is probably why people who like the other styles on this board don't become violently irritated. I suppose it takes a certain temperament. And no, that is not a "trad" temperament, for God's sake.  Mostly it's just questioning whetehr something would look all right or wondering where to get something rare.


6. Nobody ever annoys me. I know that may change, but people are always posting bait threads over there.  "The squire is coming..." or threads with 5,000 pictures of fountain pens.... are you kidding?

7. The occasional conversations about music that extend beyond the trad members to the whole board...especially the jazz stuff.


Also, I'd like to add for my part that even if Harris has changed his mind on some things, all of us do, I like Harris (as far as one can "like" an internet personality) a lot and wish he'd come over here. If nothing else, the man has fun anecdotes and knows where to find stuff.  If, as the lampoon alleges, it's a pose, maybe it's just a means of finding acceptance for what you wear.  That's probably partly why we're all here.  Most people don't appreciate the art of being well-dressed, whether that's well-dressed trad or not.  Trad gets slammed on its own anyway for not only being well-dressed but also old-fashioned.   The lampoon may argue that Harris is not telling the truth about his sainted father, but even if he isn't, everyone else could be lying about their backgrounds, too, trying to justify why we're all wearing clothes that were at their peak of style in 1961. Either way, we all sure seem to know our stuff about sack suits and oxford shirts!  So I think all of us who are truly in love with trad style and not merely dedicated to showing off pictures of ourselves dressed as squires with our expensive cars should feel free to congregate here.  The trad posts here seem to be on point as far as clothing, and we don't, as we did elsewhere, seem to be irritating those on the site more interested in Neapolitan or English clothing, indeed, sometimes our paths cross amiably when discussing films or literature or store service.

I think it's great.  We can call ourselves bastards or whatever, but I don't think anyone here, as represented by his internet personality, is really much of a bastard. Seem like good sports who love the Ivy clothes, as far as the trad crowd goes, and otherwise very knowledegeable people who while they might not favor Ivy, know how everything is made and about tailoring and all the little details that seperate tolerable manufacture from the excellent and amazing.

I hope we'll be able to keep talking along these lines, and not lose the focus thats been on the clothes, the stores, the goods,  and the humor, without stepping over the line into self absorbtion or what passes for humor elsewhere that people insist is funny but is in fact juvenile and annoying.

My best to you all, I know I'll be sticking around as long as all of you do. And if Harris, Tom22,  Markus, MichaelB, Doctor Damage, stephenson/intrepid (who vanished without a trace from AAAC, leaving his moderator position) or stanshall are reading I hope they'll find time in the future to join us.

Last edited by Coolidge (2006-09-11 21:06:20)

My 'To do' list:

The Crimson Shop '85-90
Harvard Coop '85-90.
Stuart Shine Northern New England Menswear in Yarmouth (I think) Maine '88.
Montgommery Clift.
John Cheever.

I'm actually doing 2 jobs at the moment so I'm slowing down a bit, but I'll get there.

Miles

Joe--

Glad to hear the straight dope. I hope you'll drop in here at times when you have an idea or a question or a lead on something.

Longwing--

No offense taken at all.  My objection is to these smarmy threads that not-so-subtly imply that anyone not in the "trad brotherhood" or whatever the ridiculous concept is are subhuman vulgarians fit for mockery and scorn.  So mean-spirited, stupid, and utterly LAME.

Coming out of my sporadic lurking here to give Joe a hearty welcome back. I've been missing the some of the more rational voices for a while. Damn good to hear from you.