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#1326 2011-02-09 19:42:01

fxh
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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

Thanks Tony, preppy, fnb, horace for those explanations.

It a bit like what I thought. Like a lot of things it makes sense in context. And that context is largely USA (East Coast?) clothing history.

It explains why to my untrained (in USA nuances) eye it seemed to work in tweedy jackets but not otherwise. Tweedy jackets with 2 /3 are likely to be sacks, in USA, worn when cold so buttoning all the way is useful and not formal.

Outside the context - say especially here in Oz, its only meister and shooey and perhaps wrigglez,  who'd even notice it wasn't a cigarette burn and even then shooey doesn't like it. So unless I bump into meister accidentally in Pitt St on one of my few visits to Tinsel Town there will be no one to nod and wink to my "discreet charm of the boozey tweed*"

I also can see the problems with 3 buttons suits mass produced and not tailor made. My first suit when I left school at 17 was a 3 button, 3 piece, single vent with a high fully pleated vent. Nothing that special - off the hook - but in old photos it seems to look better than most 3 buttons I've seen. I didn't keep it but from memory it was very waisted and skirted. (Had to be to show off the pleated vent I spose - iGentry starts early doesn't it - I can remember that the pleated vent was a big detail to me then.)

* bad pun on Buñuel

 

#1327 2011-02-14 19:53:53

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#1328 2011-02-14 19:59:48

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#1329 2011-02-14 20:05:34

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#1330 2011-02-14 20:09:11

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#1331 2011-02-15 03:48:47

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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

Do these guys realize how bad they look?

 

#1332 2011-02-15 06:46:45

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#1333 2011-02-15 07:03:28

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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

l wonder what crusty gets up to behind closed doors. l bet he gets up to ALOT.

 

#1334 2011-02-15 07:20:54

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1335 2011-02-15 07:53:45

fxh
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#1336 2011-02-15 09:23:40

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"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#1337 2011-02-15 15:44:45

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#1338 2011-02-15 15:51:41

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"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#1339 2011-02-15 16:48:29

fxh
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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

I like crusty. I've worked with guys like him before and I'm sure he'd be a bloody delight to work with. He'd always look good - dressing his own way - no wearing a suit to show he was better than others, not looking like he was trying too hard, he'd be respected by all.

I'm just disappointed he's gone over to SF - I hope he doesn't take any advice from the apprentice ballers and sprezz dopes.

 

#1340 2011-02-17 18:56:30

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#1341 2011-02-18 05:57:18

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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1342 2011-02-18 07:08:19

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"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#1343 2011-02-18 22:06:11

fxh
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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

sammy - I reckon crusty looks like what wants to look like and that it doesn't take him much effort or angst - he just does it and it turns out like we see. I've known guys like him who are perplexed that others can't "just do it"

I may however be very wrong and he's really a slob who would naturally dress in oversized double pleated baggy chinos, white sneakers  and green branded polo each day and has to struggle to put himself into a clean shirt and a suit.

 

#1344 2011-02-18 22:44:21

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#1345 2011-02-18 23:21:39

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"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain

 

#1346 2011-02-20 21:12:54

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#1347 2011-02-20 23:54:01

fxh
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Re: When bespoke wishes and fabric dreams go wrong

Following on from FNB above - I've alway thought it would be good to see a TV show  like those cooking shows whereby you give people ingredients and see that they can make of it.

You could have a selection of shirts for each person that were a range of sizes from tooo big to tooo small to badly fitted in a range of colours etc and collars and so on with ties and pants and jackets and belts and shoes and socks and see  what people came up with given say 20 minutes to get dressed..

FNB is right there would be some horrors.

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#1348 2011-02-22 07:08:50

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