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#1 2010-02-14 12:09:02

Taylor McIntyre
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The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

http://www.modculture.co.uk/forum2/index.php?topic=7944.830

I'd let it slip & had log-on problems (which is why I've gone back to a four year old name over there), but It's important that we leave nobody out.

- An International Brotherhood is an International Brotherhood!

 

#2 2010-02-14 12:25:24

Kingstonian
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#3 2010-02-14 13:46:17

Yuca
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Plenty of mod purists have slagged off anyone who doesn't meet their arbitrary standards, so anyone from a mod forum should be used to such foolishness.  Ultimately mod purism and ivy purism are both impossible concepts imo (the latter point has aready been stated on this forum). 
 
Personally, as someone with mod tendencies (to put it mildly), I have learnt loads from this site over the last year or so - thanks to all involved.  I still draw inspiration from the original modernist/mod/post mod eras, now, thanks to you lot, I also draw inspiration from the 60s and 70s ivy look. 

Not that it is a look, more like a number of looks - heavy ivy seems substantially different to the look in take ivy, albeit with continuity and progression between the two.

Stay cool gentlemen . . .


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#4 2010-02-14 13:46:44

Just Jim
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Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

Not sure that's ever happened here has it?  Good faith, I hope, is respected here.

Come here to troll and things get a bit odd, but good faith is to be encouraged in my book.

Best,

 

#5 2010-02-15 05:06:46

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
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Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

there's also a Steve McQueen thread over there:

http://www.modculture.co.uk/forum2/index.php?topic=13801.0

but it's more about Alexander, now...


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#6 2010-02-16 07:07:24

The Laird of Enfield
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Ah've never heard ay Steve Alexander?

 

#7 2010-02-16 08:28:22

Get Smart
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at least the thread on Modcult finally got moved into the proper section.   It was in "banter" and I always miss it since i just skim that subforum.

 

#8 2010-02-16 11:15:43

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

A good move by Dave Walker at this stage of the game.

It only originated in 'Banter' to be top of the forum a while back.

It's established enough now to go where it belongs.

 

#9 2010-02-26 16:54:30

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

There's some horrible stuff over there...

Why do they talk about this Newman brand? They should talk about Paul Newman.


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#10 2010-02-27 13:01:18

Taylor McIntyre
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NewMan grew out of Minet...

 

#11 2010-02-27 13:09:13

Alex Roest
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#12 2010-02-27 16:11:07

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#13 2010-02-27 16:14:06

Alex Roest
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#14 2010-02-27 16:14:59

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

Ivy League 2010?

http://corpo.newman.fr/en/

I don't think so! Nice girl, but I wouldn't look at the bloke's clothes and think that's Ivy... H&M is more Ivy.


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#15 2010-02-27 16:19:58

Big Mark
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"I think I had it in the back of my mind that I wanted to sound like a dry martini."  Paul Desmond

 

#16 2010-02-27 17:03:39

Alex Roest
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#17 2010-02-27 20:08:01

ScarletStreet
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"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken

 

#18 2010-02-28 02:30:10

Just Jim
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#19 2010-02-28 02:41:45

Just Jim
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- Interesting - New Man's history on their own website is wrong!

They were cashing in on Ivy Minet (undercutting the competition by selling second hand goods) which had been so big long before they came along - THEN they started making their own stuff based on the Levi cords which had sold so well for them.

 

#20 2010-02-28 03:14:04

shamrockmonkey
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Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

was linetyes a minet? or a completely different genus of i-net?


I brush my teeth with minty paste/I hate when Liquor goes to waste.

 

#21 2010-02-28 03:24:12

Alex Roest
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#22 2010-02-28 05:20:32

Just Jim
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Did I say I was going home?

We've had Omelettes and Brandy for breakfast & are now heading out -

http://autocratatthebrunchtable.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/omelette_full.jpg

http://popularemails.com/images/accidentalinventions/brandy-glass.jpg


I'll get back later.

When I do I'll check with Chenoune on New Man - The best so far in print on Minet - Which I been through word by word with Levi (with much of it on tape).  C. is good, but Levi, an orignal Minet, adds all the real flavour.

- Now there's a book that needs writing!


Later -

 

#23 2010-02-28 10:36:13

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#24 2010-03-01 02:47:06

Just Jim
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Re: The Ivy Modculture Thread Rides Again...

Greetings from the Primrose Cafe!

A misty day in BS8 today. Elaine has had her hair cut while I was away and now looks like a very naughty little pixie.

So far today we have played knock & run and gone shopping for johnny bags for her while she waited around the corner outside the chemists. I find all this hugely endearing in my avuncular way...

But - Back to work:

I have Chenoune here with me along with my Danish & frothy coffee - And a heavy bastard of a book to lug around it is too what with my bad back and all...

New Man - originally it was two words  - opened 13/04/65 (very late in Minet terms) on Rue de L'Ancienne Comedie by Bernard Dukan & Pierre Seran and (according to Chenoune) was the first boutique to sell 'used but clean American garments off the rack' - Bullshit, says Levi, they were only the first to commercialise this long standing trade with a 'boutique'. They also 'lost it' when they became a fashion brand in '66 with their copies of the Levi Cord Jean (again says Levi).

The New Man cords imagined that they 'improved on the Levi cut with their 'explosion' of colours and low rise, flared line - Bullshit, says Levi - The classic Levis cut remained the classic for those in touch with style. The new New Man stuff was for kids.

New Man did indeed originally price their stuff in dollars (Adam Magazine, June '65) and the boys in the shop all wore Bermuda Shorts during that first Summer of trading.

Then they 'sold out and sold more' (Levi, again) when they became a 'silly' fashion brand.

Original stock at New Man in '65 was Levi Cords, Blue and White OCBDs, FOTL White Ts, informs Chenoune. Levi says that you only really went there for the Levis, which were hard to get. The rest, if you knew Paris, you could get better & cheaper elsewhere, which was just what the Faces had been doing since '62, if not before.

Adam Magazine noted in Spetember of '64 that 'The Champs-Elysees from Le Drugstore to the Renault pub looks like the campus of an American University'.

^ New Man came very late to the game and then quickly moved on into pop fashions.


We really do need a proper book on the Ivy League look in France ... Eh, Mr. Chensvold?

Last edited by Just Jim (2010-03-01 03:04:34)

 

#25 2010-03-01 02:58:49

Alex Roest
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