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#26 2010-03-30 04:46:48

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

... And Cord suits are not "Trad", as we remember AAAT deciding not too long ago with great feeling.

Dammit - AAAT 'Trad' isn't Trad! Sort your bloody selves out, boys -

wink

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#27 2010-03-30 06:29:32

Axelist
Talker of the talk, walker of the walk.
From: age
Posts: 1223

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Russell_Street wrote:

... And Cord suits are not "Trad", as we remember AAAT deciding not too long ago with great feeling.

Dammit - AAAT 'Trad' isn't Trad! Sort your bloody selves out, boys -

wink

Why is that? I only look at the WAYWT-Thread from time to time.


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#28 2010-03-30 07:55:08

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Ahhhh - Because they start from an attractive (to them) iGent dogma & then try to fit in the real world to back themselves up.

It's all arse about face. The cart before the horse.

But it suits them.

The trick is to get the bright sparks to improve the whole shebang by questioning their various unhistoric 'rules'.

It'll either work out or not...

Some progress HAS been made with them over time, but the seductive power of the Disney/Harris view of the American Tradition is still very strong for lazy thinkers.

Ah, well.

 

#29 2010-03-31 08:59:16

Astridsdad
Member
Posts: 73

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

I wore a borrowed tobacco brown cord jacket with football buttons and leather elbow patches to an interview for a teacher training degree aged 17.................



.............I didn't get in.


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#30 2010-04-01 04:15:31

Axelist
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From: age
Posts: 1223

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Russell_Street wrote:

Ahhhh - Because they start from an attractive (to them) iGent dogma & then try to fit in the real world to back themselves up.

It's all arse about face. The cart before the horse.

But it suits them.

The trick is to get the bright sparks to improve the whole shebang by questioning their various unhistoric 'rules'.

It'll either work out or not...

Some progress HAS been made with them over time, but the seductive power of the Disney/Harris view of the American Tradition is still very strong for lazy thinkers.

Ah, well.

Hm. They do wear cord trousers, I think. So these are trad?  Did they mention a reason? An explaination of some sort? I don't know much about the trad thing, but I was under the impression that cord would fit into it.

I would like to have a nice olive or navy corduroy suit.

It's sexy as hell. smile


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#31 2010-04-01 09:45:26

Brownshoe
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Posts: 490

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

I love the look of a chambray shirt, fawn cord jacket, and black knit tie...but I can't figure out which pants to wear with it.  Shirt too similar to jeans, chinos with a fawn jacket tough to pull off, flannels and worsted too "fancy"...any ideas?

 

#32 2010-04-01 09:53:03

The Thin Repp
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Olive poplin pants?  A fawn cord suit?  Gabardine or Cavalry Twill pants?  I'd just go with the flannels.


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#33 2010-04-01 14:27:38

Gibson Gardens
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

I'd go for dark blue jeans. I know it's a bit Ralph Lauren but I prefer to think of it as 'Rugged Trad' as our Ivy fixated Japanese cousins term this type of look in the wonderful 'Free and Easy' magazine.

g.g.

 

#34 2010-04-02 03:18:05

Klook
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Fawn cord jacket with trousers of navy, dark grey or very darkest olive is an unbeatable combination.

http://i42.tinypic.com/ndpumr.jpg

 

#35 2010-04-02 05:31:22

JDelage
Member
From: Seattle, WA
Posts: 669

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Klook wrote:

Fawn cord jacket with trousers of navy, dark grey or very darkest olive is an unbeatable combination.

Would you wear such a jacket with cord trousers?  I think twill, flannel, or even denim would work best.


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Robert A. Heinlein

 

#36 2010-04-02 06:16:12

TheWeejun
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Posts: 946

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

I have to say I'm a fan of corduroy on corduroy - different shades and wales even (although not jumbo cord) Nice rumpled professor look, or 60s architect.

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#37 2010-04-02 06:21:58

JDelage
Member
From: Seattle, WA
Posts: 669

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Interesting, I'll have to see.

On another subject, I need to find some cord shirts....


The greatest productive force is human selfishness.

Robert A. Heinlein

 

#38 2012-07-17 08:37:45

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Bump. Jim has a vintage one on the way to JS. 40R.

 

#39 2012-07-18 03:19:29

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Talk Ivy wrote:

Bump. Jim has a vintage one on the way to JS. 40R.

In store now !

Jim.

 

#40 2012-07-18 03:23:52

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Axelist wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

Ahhhh - Because they start from an attractive (to them) iGent dogma & then try to fit in the real world to back themselves up.

It's all arse about face. The cart before the horse.

But it suits them.

The trick is to get the bright sparks to improve the whole shebang by questioning their various unhistoric 'rules'.

It'll either work out or not...

Some progress HAS been made with them over time, but the seductive power of the Disney/Harris view of the American Tradition is still very strong for lazy thinkers.

Ah, well.

Hm. They do wear cord trousers, I think. So these are trad?  Did they mention a reason? An explaination of some sort? I don't know much about the trad thing, but I was under the impression that cord would fit into it.

I would like to have a nice olive or navy corduroy suit.

It's sexy as hell. smile

Sorry I never answered this - They remembered Cord suits from the '70s with bad associations for them & so judged them not 'Trad'. That may have changed by now. They were astonishingly thick back then (by which I mean the Trads, not the Cord suits...). If there were Cord suits in the '70s did they not think that there were also Cord suits in the '50s (and before) too ?  ... ... ...

Jim.

 

#41 2012-07-18 03:26:50

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

I like those O'Connell's jackets on the first page here a lot.

Jim

 

#42 2012-07-18 03:45:08

woofboxer
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From: Staines-upon-Thames, Middlesex
Posts: 6107

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Cord suit with a knitted tie, button down and dirty bucks ........so Ivy it hurts.


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

 

#43 2012-07-18 03:52:31

One For Bop
Mr. Ivy
From: time to time.
Posts: 1464

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Wasn't it that corner-stone of 1960's Ivydom, Bobby Dylan that once sang, 'his bucks are dirty, but his hands are clean'?


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#44 2012-07-18 05:35:15

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

/\    Like that a lot !

Another bit of Trad fun was that zippered knitwear was judged not Trad - Nevermind that it was a commonplace of the 1930s... It just didn't suit their fantasy of what the past & their tradition was.

... So they invented a new Disney version for themselves instead !

Such foolish fun !

Jim.

 

#45 2012-07-18 10:24:31

fxh
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.


To do: insert constantly changing witty, knowing and slightly ironic literary quote or reference.

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#46 2012-07-18 10:39:02

Axelist
Talker of the talk, walker of the walk.
From: age
Posts: 1223

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Talk Ivy wrote:

Axelist wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

Ahhhh - Because they start from an attractive (to them) iGent dogma & then try to fit in the real world to back themselves up.

It's all arse about face. The cart before the horse.

But it suits them.

The trick is to get the bright sparks to improve the whole shebang by questioning their various unhistoric 'rules'.

It'll either work out or not...

Some progress HAS been made with them over time, but the seductive power of the Disney/Harris view of the American Tradition is still very strong for lazy thinkers.

Ah, well.

Hm. They do wear cord trousers, I think. So these are trad?  Did they mention a reason? An explaination of some sort? I don't know much about the trad thing, but I was under the impression that cord would fit into it.

I would like to have a nice olive or navy corduroy suit.

It's sexy as hell. smile

Sorry I never answered this - They remembered Cord suits from the '70s with bad associations for them & so judged them not 'Trad'. That may have changed by now. They were astonishingly thick back then (by which I mean the Trads, not the Cord suits...). If there were Cord suits in the '70s did they not think that there were also Cord suits in the '50s (and before) too ?  ... ... ...

Jim.

Ah, yes. Constructed reality. 

Meanwhile I bought a fawn cord jacket from a make I will not mention. From all important criteria, it about ticks 60%. It was a sample, therefore  cheap and looks well on me. At least I think it does.
"Slightly darted", though. I like that expression. smile

One could think that forum is a promotion base for J.Keydge, but they really had interesting looking cord coats last season. Some of them are in the sales section, but the tan ones starts at size 52, which might a bit too loose for me. Although you never know with their sizing.


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#47 2012-07-18 15:54:57

Russell...Street
By any other name...
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

One for Kingstonian:

Navy needlecord 3-button Ivy suit

Blue mini check Gingham button down collar shirt

Black or blue 2"+ silk knit tie optional

A white tee shirt if it is cold

Brown suede Chukka boots

Red socks

842 crop or shorter

Maybe a tan mac?

What's wrong?


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#48 2012-07-18 15:56:17

Yuca
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

No pants/boxers?


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#49 2012-07-18 16:02:17

Russell...Street
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Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Definitely white boxers!


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#50 2012-07-19 07:41:23

Russell...Street
By any other name...
Posts: 100156

Re: Ivy As Hell: The Corduroy Jacket.

Kingstonian...

or what about


Aviator shades

Madras check short sleeve

Levi's needlecord 5 pocket jeans or needlecord sta-prest, light coloured

Oxblood Bass Weejuns

blue or grey Argyle socks optional?



A trucker jacket (only for the kids) would have to be another material, but they also came in cord... A golf or tennis blouson, optional in summer...

That's what I heard...



Nowadays there are even Corduroy Harringtons!

I've seen a slightly scruffy (with a beard and a grown out barnet) Spanish student beard in a wonderful olive green Brooks cord 'Arry a few weeks ago... Desert Boots and jeans, if I recall correctly.


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

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