I will ask some of my mates for photographs of their "German Ivy jackets", most of them darted, though...

Regarding the Jazz angle- my father was a Jazz nut (he even was in a band that garnered an appearance at the famous Atrium Club in Vienna back in the fifties, and (for him at least) it was all about the music. The economic situation in Austria remained pretty austere throughout the 50s and the early 60s, and I would assume that most students (who were the main fan base) were far too pressed for cash to even consider hunting down American clothes- they didn't even have money for the records, they got everything off the radio (that would partially explain the odd mix of resolutely Trad Jazz and hypermodern Bebop that informs much of my father's record collection)- when they weren't busy hunting Jews through the streets of Vienna and drinking themselves senseless in 'beer duels', that is.

When I got into the Mod scene in the late 80s and asked my father whether he remembered any similar young men in 60s Vienna he genuinely did not understand what I meant- he thought I was talking about 'confirmed bachelors'.

a bump for this thread...

anybody else got this book Tony mentioned? Not to keen on buying books with male models in underwear on the cover...

we've mentioned them, but there has to be a little bit more on E.J. Behrendt etc... that's why I bumped this thread...

we also need a little bit period movies ... I will link some horrible Edgar Wallace trash! Be careful!

Tuckermandl is in a catholic, no-duelling Verbindung...

Didn't know it! It can only be better than Edgar Wallace stuff....
Definitely if it's by Pinter!!!

So I am. But I do have a 'Schmiss'- makes me look like Harry Potter (or like a much older, gone-to-seed Daniel Radcliffe- I also wear vintage NHS gold frames).

Regarding Jazz in Germany and Austria- the 'scene', as it were, was huge, of outstanding quality (both home-grown and imported talent) and predated rock'n'roll as the music of choice for middle-class rebels. And that's before we even start on the mighty MPS label and its output during the late '60s to '70s- rediscovered and then re-packaged and re-sold as 'Acid Jazz' to Germany by people like Gilles Peterson (Mojo Club in Hamburg, Beatbox in Wuppertal- those were the days).

But I am not at all convinced by the sartorial angle- as I wrote earlier, my father and his friends were supremely unconcerned by such matters, it was the music first and foremost.

This is perhaps a little more mod than ivy, but I did not know that Levi's Sta Prest were available in the 60s in Germany. This ad is for sale on ebay right now.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Werbung-1965-Levi-s-Sta-Prest-/190419551347?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Reklame_Werbung&hash=item2c55e3c473

'Neu in Deutschland. Bügelt man nie!"

Last edited by soulquentin (2010-07-21 04:34:00)

Maybe one of us in D should put in a wee bid - a pity the pic is a bit blurred.

And has generally remained so, I would have thought.