Moose Maclennan wrote:
Trojan wrote:
...But The Ivy Look now benefits from the 'Look Inside' feature on Amazon.co.uk...
And damn good it's looking too, thanks for that.
I'm a very happy boy. The book looks wonderful.
crikey, first time I used the "look inside" feature on amazon. THis book looks the bees knees!!
cancelled my US order and reordered with amazon UK. cost like 2x as much but i dont think I can wait til spring 2011 for mine
Nice essay on John Simons by Gaul-somebody or other. Never 'eard of 'im.
What makes me so happy is that this is the first book on the subject in the West and that the authors are real Ivy fans dating back to the 1960s and 1970s repectively.
It looks to be dogmatic. Apparently the forum is name-checked, but the pages were unavailable on Amazon when I looked earlier.
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
It looks to be dogmatic.
Do you really think so? You know I'm always wary of that kind of thing but if it is indeed the case it didn't strike me as unpleasant. Just honest enthusiasm I'd say and I'm very much aware of the fact that I'm defending your overall POV on this now, which just goes to show... You could very well be right, though and it still wouldn't spoil anything I think...
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
It looks to be dogmatic. Apparently the forum is name-checked, but the pages were unavailable on Amazon when I looked earlier.
It's only a book. Sections of Roetzel's "The Gentleman" were hilarious. He was too earnest and uninformed on Savile Row tailoring and firms. I am convinced that some moronic iGent was responsible for the, often hilarious, crap that he wrote.
Alex Roest wrote:
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
It looks to be dogmatic.
Do you really think so? You know I'm always wary of that kind of thing but if it is indeed the case it didn't strike me as unpleasant. Just honest enthusiasm I'd say and I'm very much aware of the fact that I'm defending your overall POV on this now, which just goes to show... You could very well be right, though and it still wouldn't spoil anything I think...
Oh yes... LOL!... it's just that I've reached that time of my life where I don't give a fuck if someone looks first at my shoes before passing judgement - not that I don't do it all the time about other people, of course! It's certainly honest enthusiasm and not trendhound sneering; but if someone wants to feel they're somehow more 'sussed' because they've paid top dollar for Alden while I'm only wearing Dexter... I'm just going to stifle the yawn with the back of my hand and go back to sleep...
Also, obviously, my main concern is Hot Cakes Syndrome.
I was interested to see that Ralph Lauren rates a little mention. He often gets short shrift on the forum. I should be interested in hearing a bit about wearing the stuff from Brideshead, who I think might have been into it early on. I thought it was excellent when I first laid eyes on it around 1980 - though it was my father who was wearing it, not me. I've since inherited some of those USA-made polo shirts. John Simons certainly used to sell it. About £39 per shirt as I recall. Jeff used to wear it in the shop. Debrett's New York fashionista was onto the pony by 1988, but try telling guys, even now, that their shirts would be better without. They simply won't believe you.
It doesn't help that charity shops are often as rammed with non-USA offerings as they are with Ben Sherman.
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
It looks to be dogmatic. Apparently the forum is name-checked, but the pages were unavailable on Amazon when I looked earlier.
If you pop 'Talk Ivy' or 'Film Noir Buff' into the search thingy part of the 'look inside the book' section then we pop up. I was deeply touched by that.
not wanting to lower the tone, but you wonder whether CC will ignore that this book is being made now that he has a reference in the back...
Russell_Street wrote:
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
It looks to be dogmatic. Apparently the forum is name-checked, but the pages were unavailable on Amazon when I looked earlier.
If you pop 'Talk Ivy' or 'Film Noir Buff' into the search thingy part of the 'look inside the book' section then we pop up. I was deeply touched by that.
Found it. Thinking about cancelling my order now. Too vulgar and common.
colin wrote:
not wanting to lower the tone, but you wonder whether CC will ignore that this book is being made now that he has a reference in the back...
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just did a surprise me! search on the Amazon. Nice to see some stuff on outerwear, such as duffle coats by gloverall. I'm a big fan of the coats and autumn is just around the corner, they don't seem that popular on here?
My duffle coat may just be among my favorite items of clothing...bought from j simons, some obscure German brand it was. Don't care too much for Gloverall to be honest, certainly not for their "monty" model.
colin wrote:
just did a surprise me! search on the Amazon. Nice to see some stuff on outerwear, such as duffle coats by gloverall. I'm a big fan of the coats and autumn is just around the corner, they don't seem that popular on here?
was few threads on it awhile back. they were a big part of the US look, but theyre associated with CND marchers/commie boho types over your way. apparently they were brit surplus and thus easily available over there during the 60s. kind of like how i see US fishtail parkas going for 150-300 bucks over there, and over here they were until quite recently cheap rags for deer hunting and the like.
shamrockmonkey wrote:
colin wrote:
just did a surprise me! search on the Amazon. Nice to see some stuff on outerwear, such as duffle coats by gloverall. I'm a big fan of the coats and autumn is just around the corner, they don't seem that popular on here?
was few threads on it awhile back. they were a big part of the US look, but theyre associated with CND marchers/commie boho types over your way. apparently they were brit surplus and thus easily available over there during the 60s. kind of like how i see US fishtail parkas going for 150-300 bucks over there, and over here they were until quite recently cheap rags for deer hunting and the like.
That is true - and a young Paddington Bear, as well.
yeah, when i was 8 or so we had a family who moved from ireland, dirt poor, etc etc. i remember some sicilian calling the kid my age paddington bear, and then getting his nose rearranged.
I have to say I'm impressed that the Sicilian kid had ever heard of Paddington Bear: a delightful little scamp who got up to more mischief than the rather goody-goody Rupert. Martin Scorcese is to make a film about Paddington, I believe, with Leonardo De Caprio in the lead role and Robert De Niro as Mr. Curry, the next-door neighbour.
It's got a review in the Telegraph Magazine Men's Autumn Hotlist:
The Ivy Look (Frances Lincoln, £12.99) is a lovingly researched guide to the classic clothing worn by the Ivy League university fraternity in the 1960s, a look that a certain stylish breed of men have never grown out of. In their book, Londoners Graham Marsh and JP Gaul, enthusiasts of all things button-down and cool, dissect the key elements, from the width of the lapel to the shininess of the Bass Weejuns and the perfect tilt of the trilby, a jaunty version of which (they probably wouldn’t approve) M&S sells for £15.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/7951 … -2010.html
Chris_H wrote:
It's got a review in the Telegraph Magazine Men's Autumn Hotlist:
The Ivy Look (Frances Lincoln, £12.99) is a lovingly researched guide to the classic clothing worn by the Ivy League university fraternity in the 1960s, a look that a certain stylish breed of men have never grown out of. In their book, Londoners Graham Marsh and JP Gaul, enthusiasts of all things button-down and cool, dissect the key elements, from the width of the lapel to the shininess of the Bass Weejuns and the perfect tilt of the trilby, a jaunty version of which (they probably wouldn’t approve) M&S sells for £15.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/7951 … -2010.html
Nice one, Chris. I hope this means the first printing sells out quickly for them. Don't think John reads the 'Torygraph', though!
Rip Rig & Panic wrote:
I have to say I'm impressed that the Sicilian kid had ever heard of Paddington Bear: a delightful little scamp who got up to more mischief than the rather goody-goody Rupert. Martin Scorcese is to make a film about Paddington, I believe, with Leonardo De Caprio in the lead role and Robert De Niro as Mr. Curry, the next-door neighbour.
i was wondering how he knew about him myself, as i wrote that.